Barely Touching Clutch Pedal Allows Shifting?
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Barely Touching Clutch Pedal Allows Shifting?
Hi.
94 Ranger. V6 3.0 5-Speed manual. 159,000.
transmission "rebuilt" by previous owner. Not sure exactly what they did.
8 months into my ownership a problem arose. I only need to press the clutch a fraction of an inch down to shift. One may think that this is awesome, but it is simply too sensitive.
Father and I thought that the clutch disk was worn away. Tore everything apart to find a perfectly fine clutch disk. Now we're thinking hydraulics.
Can anyone else shed any thoughts/light?
Thanks!
-Nick.
94 Ranger. V6 3.0 5-Speed manual. 159,000.
transmission "rebuilt" by previous owner. Not sure exactly what they did.
8 months into my ownership a problem arose. I only need to press the clutch a fraction of an inch down to shift. One may think that this is awesome, but it is simply too sensitive.
Father and I thought that the clutch disk was worn away. Tore everything apart to find a perfectly fine clutch disk. Now we're thinking hydraulics.
Can anyone else shed any thoughts/light?
Thanks!
-Nick.
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It almost has me wondering if either the master or slave cyl (esp) have a piston stuck and not fully returning and the thing self adjusted via fluid to the current situation. Yeah, it might sound great but it also sounds like a condition that might not allow the clutch to fully release and therefore be prone to slippage under heavy load.
*Any change in fluid level as a consequence of this?
*Any change in fluid level as a consequence of this?
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Pedal feels normal throughout full travel. Cannot make the clutch slip even if I stomp on it. Problem seems worse in 1st and 2nd gear. 3/4 seems okay. Truck is pretty hard to start from a dead stop b/c you have to be so sensitive with the pedal.
Bled slave cylinder, same problem.
Bled slave cylinder, same problem.
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I doubt it's a hydraulic issue... when there's a hydraulic problem you have the exact opposite symptoms... pressing the clutch all the way and barely able to shift.
The real question is... is your clutch slipping? Cruise at 30mph in 4th gear and nail the gas... do you notice excessive RPM increase without vehicle speed increase? If so you're slipping.
I think most likely somewhere down the road someone has resurfaced the flywheel to make it too thin. Because of that the clutch is barely making enough contact, hense being able to shift easily. If it's not slipping I wouldn't worry about it, just pay attention because it will probably start slipping soon.
Options? New flywheel... or sometimes you can find a shim that goes between the flywheel and the engine, the push it a little further back.
Good Luck.
The real question is... is your clutch slipping? Cruise at 30mph in 4th gear and nail the gas... do you notice excessive RPM increase without vehicle speed increase? If so you're slipping.
I think most likely somewhere down the road someone has resurfaced the flywheel to make it too thin. Because of that the clutch is barely making enough contact, hense being able to shift easily. If it's not slipping I wouldn't worry about it, just pay attention because it will probably start slipping soon.
Options? New flywheel... or sometimes you can find a shim that goes between the flywheel and the engine, the push it a little further back.
Good Luck.
I'll ask my pops about the flywheel.
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I need to ask you to consider this, the thickness of the flywheel would move the pressure plate fingers or diaphragm further from the throw out bearing (forward). Result would be clearance which would end up as free travel in the pedal. As the clutch disc looses thickness the diaphragm or fingers move out and would reduce the clearance. That is the reason a clutch with mechanical linkage needs to be adjusted,
and so do some hydraulic designs, as the wear takes place. If the flywheel was cut an excessive amount, it would exceeded the travel limits of the release a no release problem would be had. As to your problem at this point I'm not sure as to the cause or the cure. I do think in driving it make an effort to get the pedal down a bit further to assure the load is off the syncronizer rings, these transmisssion shift very nice even
without the clutch but in my opinon it isn't any good for them. I have to look at the manual and I'll try and get back to this. My thoughts
and so do some hydraulic designs, as the wear takes place. If the flywheel was cut an excessive amount, it would exceeded the travel limits of the release a no release problem would be had. As to your problem at this point I'm not sure as to the cause or the cure. I do think in driving it make an effort to get the pedal down a bit further to assure the load is off the syncronizer rings, these transmisssion shift very nice even
without the clutch but in my opinon it isn't any good for them. I have to look at the manual and I'll try and get back to this. My thoughts
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