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Old Oct 9, 2020 | 01:27 AM
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We are currently pulling a 30 ft. fifth wheel with no problems with our 2012 PSD 6.7 .
I remember having a cab over camper years ago with a 1973 F250 gas engine with a 428 cj engine. The cab over did not have a refrigerator or slide out like the new ones have. My question is with the weight of the new cab overs, are the springs and rear tires good enough to haul the new heavier cab overs without going to a dually?

I enjoyed traveling without the burden of pulling a trailer or fifth wheel. I would think that the limiting factor would be the load the tires could handle.
What do you guys that have cab overs think?

The only modification I made was adding air bags to keep the ride level when weight is added.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2020 | 04:37 AM
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The Class C COB are dually. You need to take a visit to your local RV center/seller and talk with them. Or go to one of the RV manufacturer sites and check specs there and maybe call them. I doubt the RV manufacturers are going to sell you and RV without the proper load range wheels/tires installed.

I suspect the Ford chassis used is specifically designed for the RV and the requirements. Ford also has the F53 Motorhome chassis for the Class A style RV's.

Go talk to one of the RV centers and do some sluething...
 
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Old Oct 9, 2020 | 07:45 AM
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When I was looking at RV's a few years ago i was amazed at how heavy they were. When i was a kid we had one and my dad had it in a F100 ya back in the late 60's 68 Ford. Now they are so full of things they are super heavy.
Here is Fords towing guide
https://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/
Check you year and there is a section for slide in campers.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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When I went to the RV show I was stunned at how heavy the slide-in campers were. It's like they looked at the max cargo capacity of the biggest trucks available and designed the campers right up to that limit.

As I recall, there are many complaints about how soft the rear suspension is for 2011-2016 F-250's. An F-250 isn't a good fit for a slide-in camper, especially not one with the 6.7L engine. You don't have much cargo capacity. The F-350 is a better fit and a DRW is the ideal fit.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2020 | 09:45 AM
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When I went to the RV show I was stunned at how heavy the slide-in campers were. It's like they looked at the max cargo capacity of the biggest trucks available and designed the campers right up to that limit.

As I recall, there are many complaints about how soft the rear suspension is for 2011-2016 F-250's. An F-250 isn't a good fit for a slide-in camper, especially not one with the 6.7L engine. You don't have much cargo capacity. The F-350 is a better fit and a DRW is the ideal fit.
I got the impression he was talking more of a Class C RV and not the slide-in camper setup. Maybe he will some back and clarify what he is really looking for are wanting info about.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2020 | 02:15 PM
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I am looking to purchase a slide in cab over camper that our truck can handle. Our 2012 F250 psd has only 21,785 miles on it, and don't really want to upgrade to a F350 or newer truck. I don't use this one very much as you can see by our mileage. I am also very happy with our pickup. I guess I just need to check out a slide in camper that would not be to heavy for our truck, or tires.

I forgot about another modification, but is not pertinent to this conversation, and that was a tuner from Superchips, that on economy settings gives us 480 hp and 1,000 ft.lbs. torque.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2020 | 02:25 PM
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You might check out th towing forum on FTE for more info you seek.

Towing Forum - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums
 
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Old Oct 9, 2020 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by maxtor
I am looking to purchase a slide in cab over camper that our truck can handle. Our 2012 F250 psd has only 21,785 miles on it, and don't really want to upgrade to a F350 or newer truck. I don't use this one very much as you can see by our mileage. I am also very happy with our pickup. I guess I just need to check out a slide in camper that would not be to heavy for our truck, or tires.

I forgot about another modification, but is not pertinent to this conversation, and that was a tuner from Superchips, that on economy settings gives us 480 hp and 1,000 ft.lbs. torque.
I used to have a 2012 F250 with the 6.2L gasser and short bed. When I looked for a truck camper it quickly became apparent that I was under-trucked for all but the most bare bones campers. BTW, the 6.2L has more cargo capacity than the 6.7L .

Here's about the best you're going to find: Palamino truck camper
 
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Old Oct 9, 2020 | 11:54 PM
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We have the long bed.

Anyone here actually have a slide in camper, and a 8 ft. bed? What are your thoughts?
 
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There is no differaence between the 250 and 350. They both have the same motor and transmission. If you have the 10,000 capacity in the 250 it's also the same in the 350. In order to get more payload you need the 11.500 payload package. otherwise they are the same truck. Maxtor did you check out the towing guide? All the information is in there. The limiting factor is axle rating and load rating on the tires. The rear of all these trucks is soft except the DRW and even those are a little soft. Adding air bags helps make the truck level. But you still cant go over the ratings of your truck.
On the yellow sticker you can take the amount of payload and subtract from the 10,000 and that is how much your truck actually weight. It included all fuel and fluids and a 150# driver. That is absolutely the only thing I use the yellow sticker for. You need to weigh the truck to see how much the rear weighs because that number is no where to be found. If you have the camper package than you have a rear sway bar which is nice. Mine doesn't have it. I wanted one from Ford but they don't have the kit and all the hardware is sold separate. Thank you Ford!!!
That sway bar will keep the truck from rocking back and forth. Maybe if you don't have that you could find one in a wrecked truck.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2020 | 12:41 PM
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Thanks for the information. I will do some researching later today. I bought the truck new in 2012 and can't remember if I got it with the camper package or not. I have all the paperwork, so just have to read it. I'll get back to you all later today.
 
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Ok, here is what we have;

10,000# gvwr package
Camper package
3.31 electronic locking axle

I will need to weigh our truck to see what weight slide in camper we can purchase.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2020 | 09:45 AM
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The camper package includes that rear sway bar. White sticker gives you your axle rating and load limit is on the tires. Remember it's x2
 
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Originally Posted by maxtor
Ok, here is what we have;

10,000# gvwr package
Camper package
3.31 electronic locking axle

I will need to weigh our truck to see what weight slide in camper we can purchase.
As Bone said, the 250 with the camper package is 99% physically identical to the SRW 350. Your ratings will be derated to match the 10K GVWR derate of the F250 but that's a paper derate only. Physically, you're just as capable. The only hardware difference you will have is your rear suspension blocks. The SRW 350 has 4" and the 250 has 2". These have no effect on capability. The taller 350 blocks simply start you off with more of a rake so your truck doesn't appear to sag as much when loaded. You can compensate on your 250 with airbags or swap in the taller blocks for about 100 bucks or so. So, your actual capability is that of an identically equipped SRW 350.
 
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As Bone said, the 250 with the camper package is 99% physically identical to the SRW 350. Your ratings will be derated to match the 10K GVWR derate of the F250 but that's a paper derate only. Physically, you're just as capable. The only hardware difference you will have is your rear suspension blocks. The SRW 350 has 4" and the 250 has 2". These have no effect on capability. The taller 350 blocks simply start you off with more of a rake so your truck doesn't appear to sag as much when loaded. You can compensate on your 250 with airbags or swap in the taller blocks for about 100 bucks or so. So, your actual capability is that of an identically equipped SRW 350.
We already have the air bags. I talked to a Lance dealer in Oregon, and their campers start out at 43k. We have a 30 ft. 5th wheel that cost us 33k new, back in 2007. Seems like they think their 8 to 9ft slide in's are gold. With the slide outs, they are very heavy. I am still looking for a light, new, slide in camper.
 
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