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Old May 14, 2019 | 06:43 PM
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Catalytic converter Issue/suggestion on replacement?

Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and happy to be a part of it. I recently purchased my first X, gasser 6.8L v10 from out west. Only 70k miles on it. Anyway the catalytic converter is making a sound that sounds similar to a head gasket leak at about 2k rpm. I want to replace the Cat but I've been reading that some OEM cats throw codes after install and codes won't go away. Any suggestions on what Cat I should buy?

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Old May 14, 2019 | 07:32 PM
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Not sure anyone can offer you help on your explanation.

Resonation is like a drone or amplification of a sound at a speed or rpm.

The stock cat is quiet and free flowing. Unless it is plugged or broken.

Walker or eastern catalytic converters are decent aftermarket. I have used many over the years for various models.

Not all v10’s have a downstream o2 sensor. You can look at yours and see.

I would do more investigation before dropping $400 plus bucks on a cat of unknown condition

my cat was plugged when I bought my truck. I didn’t know it till later. Pinged and no power at heavy throttle.

Turned out first and last honeycomb was intact but middle was crumbled and plugging it up.

I took it out and shook it around. Sounded like full of marbles. Or bag o’ glass
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 07:37 PM
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One cat I had fail in a crv broke up and the parts went down the exhaust pipe and partially plugged the muffler.

That took a while to figure out. Had a whistle at full throttle acceleration for a long time.

Ran pretty good at 1:2 throttle or less. How i mostly drive.

Ran much better with the pieces shaken out of the muffler.
 
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Old May 14, 2019 | 07:57 PM
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@Jakerichards1 I guess I just wanted to get a suggestion on which is the best to buy so I can replace it. I updated my post.
 
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Old May 17, 2019 | 11:09 PM
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Walker

I suggest walker exhaust then. Probably the closest to oem performance you can get without oe price.

Might want to figure out what caused the early demise however. Stock can easily go double that or more. It’s required by law actually. Walker will go minimally 40k mi unless something kills it. Running rich somehow will cause it to fail.
 
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Old May 18, 2019 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Franks721
Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and happy to be a part of it. I recently purchased my first X, gasser 6.8L v10 from out west. Only 70k miles on it. Anyway the catalytic converter is making a sound that sounds similar to a head gasket leak at about 2k rpm. I want to replace the Cat but I've been reading that some OEM cats throw codes after install and codes won't go away. Any suggestions on what Cat I should buy?

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Welcome to the EX forum!

Can you describe the sound a little better? "Like a head gasket leak" doesn't really make the noise clear. To me and what I think of what a head gasket leak sounds like, I would first suspect an exhaust leak at the manifold due to broken stud(s), are you missing any of the 20 exhaust manifold studs? What leads you to believe that it's the cat making the noise? Is the entire stock exhaust system still intact?
 
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Old May 18, 2019 | 12:18 PM
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If you need one, I would get a Magnaflow. I'm happy with the stuff I've bought from them. Check the exhaust studs first though.
 
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Old May 20, 2019 | 10:24 AM
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"Sounds like a head gasket leak". There is no typical sound they make so no clue what that means.

Bang on the cat and see if it rattles, if not it's probably ok. The next step to verify would be to remove it and see if it's broken. The only sound I've heard a cat make is rattling.
 
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Agree on the head gasket leak. They don't typically make a sound unless it is an air-cooled engine. Then they make a sound like a leaking or cracked exhaust manifold.

Magnaflow and Walker are both good aftermarket replacements that I've used. Depending on what state you live in, be sure to get a CA emissions or Federal emissions replacement. (I think I'd be fair in saying that most folks get Federal emissions units regardless)

Regarding longevity, if it's previous live(s) were spent doing a lot of cold starts and slow driving, 70,000 miles of that could add up and make a cat go bad. 70,000 miles in 15 years is only ~4,600 miles per year.
 
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Thanks for the comments everyone. I had the headers milled and all bolts replaced with new gaskets, along with a new California emissions CAT, and new muffler. It's no longer sluggish however I'm still getting the same noise at 1800 rpm. It looks like where the Y pipe connects to the headers someone put that orange gasket maker stuff, I'm wondering if the leak is coming from there. If I can try and explain the sound, it only happens when the engine heats up, only when under load, and it sounds like a mixture of an air leak with a tin metal flapping noise lol. At this point I'm going to redo the y pipe, so there is a new connection there, if that doesn't fix it my only guess is there is still an issue at the headers.
 
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Originally Posted by Franks721
Thanks for the comments everyone. I had the headers milled and all bolts replaced with new gaskets, along with a new California emissions CAT, and new muffler. It's no longer sluggish however I'm still getting the same noise at 1800 rpm. It looks like where the Y pipe connects to the headers someone put that orange gasket maker stuff, I'm wondering if the leak is coming from there. If I can try and explain the sound, it only happens when the engine heats up, only when under load, and it sounds like a mixture of an air leak with a tin metal flapping noise lol. At this point I'm going to redo the y pipe, so there is a new connection there, if that doesn't fix it my only guess is there is still an issue at the headers.
What year is this EX? And does it have the Rams horn style Y pipe or the necked down T shaped abomination from the factory? You mentioned headers, but I am assuming factory exhaust manifolds? Under load with some RPM and a metallic flapping noise sounds like it could be a loose heat shield on the exhaust vibrating, pretty common issue that a metal screw type hose clamp can resolve. Another source of RPM related metallic harmonic vibration noise is the tin cover over the front lower bell housing, pull it off and give it a slight bend by hand and reinstall. The bend will give it enough tension to stop its vibration and noise making.
 
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