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Old Jan 14, 2017 | 08:08 PM
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Need new front leafs - clear 35's but not kill my spine

Cab is a '86, but frame/drivetrain is a '89. Dana 60 swap up front. Current leafs, no data known about brand/sourcing.
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I want to swap to something with same height, but softer. Truck seriously has about 3" of flex.


So yeah, any suggestions? I don't mind a truck ride. But right now it's a spine jingler on pretty much any bumps. Been researching swapping in Superduty leafs. Probably heading that route unless y'all can give me a good wave off
 
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Biggest clearance issue is your front bumper. Trim it or use an aftermarket and your 35s should clear with just about any F350 leafs.

If it rides as you describe, pretty good chance whoever swapped in the D60 reused the D50 TTB leafs...TTB leafs are much stiffer. Getting simply stock front F350 leafs will be an improvement.

Research a RSK (Reverse Shackle Kit) for a near bolt on use of SuperDuty leafs for an even more improved ride. If you have some fabrication skills, you can move the front shackle pivot mount forward enough to use the SD leafs without a RSK.

Precision Metal Fab makes the best RSK in my opinion.
Junior at ATSsprings dot com is my go-to contact for SD leafs.

Looks like you have already done some research...good luck and ask questions as a lot of us have bumped our heads on these issues already.
 
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thank you for the input. I have no issue spacing the bumper if needed.

I cannot find a good pic for comparison purposes of a HD F250 TTB leafs.
 
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The more I look at my front leafs, the more I think I may already have Superduty leafs installed. But that bottom leaf (3rd one, shorter length) looks like the helper leaf from a rear spring pack. If that's the case, no wonder the damn thing rides stiff. Either way, that 3rd leaf is preventing alot of spring flex. I may yank it and replace with a shorter piece to see if the leafs flex some more, especially before dropping more cash on new leafs.

or just yank and put 1" lift shackles

anybody know the overall length of SD leafs vs. HD leafs? I know they are 3" longer-ish.
 

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Old Jan 15, 2017 | 12:45 PM
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so yeah, here is the rear pack. it looks very similar to my 2006 F-250. I'm annoyed by the spacer leaf under the leaf pack there as well. Will have to pull that + 2" block...and install a 4" block
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the joys of buying someone else project. you get to play the "what the hell were they thinking?" game
 
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Old Jan 15, 2017 | 02:22 PM
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The front leafs are definitely not super duty leaf springs.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2017 | 04:17 PM
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They don't appear to be the TTB leaf packs either. The TTB springs are flat or maybe a slight negative arch.
 
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at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they were a rear leaf pack thrown in

lots of weird stuff going on. I'll snap a picture of under the hood. it'll appall you guys. I can count at least 3 different trucks here for sure. I'm fairly certain a 4th truck donated as well


will probably be best to just wipe to a zero state.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2017 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Tylus
anybody know the overall length of SD leafs vs. HD leafs? I know they are 3" longer-ish.
OBS and SD leafs are about the same from the rear mount point to the axle. SD leafs are about 3" longer from the axle forward. 3" seems to be the dimension that the RSK from Precision Metal Fab relocates the front mounting location forward.

The OBS front dogbone shackles are too short and in the wrong location to mount SD leafs to them without a major wrestling match.

Don't know if this answers your question though...
 
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