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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 10:51 AM
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Talking Dana 60 semi float to Sterling 10.5 help

My 83 has a Dana 60 semi float rear axle was considering swapping it out for a sterling 10.5 out of a mid to late 90's Ford. is this a bolt in swap? if not what issues will I run into besides u joints?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 11:02 AM
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You will probably need to shorten your drive shaft, and you may need to get a 1330-1350 crossover joint, depending on the donor truck. I believe 351 powered trucks held out with the 1330's longer.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 12:01 PM
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For what it's worth, mid- to late-90s Fords used a 10.25" Sterling. The 10.5" didn't come out until the Super Duties in '99.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 12:23 PM
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Are spring perches in the same place ? And there better then the dana 60....... I tow A LOT
 
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 12:27 PM
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Spring perches are the same unless you happen to get a dually type from under a cab and chassis pickup.

Hopefully you will need driveshaft work. They had a problem with the early Sterlings, the splines on the inside of the pinion yoke would wear. Then that would let it twist back and forth ever so slightly and that loosens the pinion nut, aggravating the whole problem. Sometime later(I want to say 93) they made this splined area longer to cure the problem. But of course this made the snout on the rearend longer also, requiring a shorter driveshaft.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 02:43 PM
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What was the 1st yrs of the 10.5
 
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 03:01 PM
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Super duties came out in 99. So 99 was the first year of the 10.5
 
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 04:19 PM
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Are spring perches in the same place ? And there better then the dana 60....... I tow A LOT
I don't think there were any differences in spring width or placement on F-250s from '80 to '97. You might need different U-bolts and plates if the axle tube diameters are different, but the parts for the truck the axle came out of should work.

I wouldn't think shocks would be a problem either, but I'm a little less sure of that.

Not sure if brakes will give you any issue. Your '93 didn't have ABS and by the mid '90s Ford trucks had rear wheel ABS, so it MIGHT take a little work to get the proportioning worked out. Shouldn't be a showstopper, but might not just be plug-and-play.

From what I've read on the '87 - '96 forum it seems like people think the 10.25" is a pretty big improvement over the Dana 60, but I'm just repeating what I've read.
 
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The 10.25 is more or less on par with a 70hd or 14b. Good strong axle with nice big bearings everywhere and good strong axle shafts.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2016 | 09:40 PM
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From what I understand, the lug pattern for the 10.5 is metric and slightly different than the lug pattern for the 10.25

I swapped a 10.25 from a 1996 F350 into my 1986 F250 with zero issues. Everything lined up perfectly. Spring perches, drive shaft, Ujoints all worked perfectly.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by joefritz25
From what I understand, the lug pattern for the 10.5 is metric and slightly different than the lug pattern for the 10.25

I swapped a 10.25 from a 1996 F350 into my 1986 F250 with zero issues. Everything lined up perfectly. Spring perches, drive shaft, Ujoints all worked perfectly.
swapped the 10.25 into my 1984 f250 in place of the dana 61 zero issues.
u-joints were the same,spring width is the same.Would highly recommend that swap.
 
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Originally Posted by redbayredneck
Super duties came out in 99. So 99 was the first year of the 10.5
It is also the first year of the 8 on 170mm lug pattern.

... So unless you buy newer wheels and figure a way to swap spindles in the front, you are going to have to keep front and rear separate.

Seems an awful lot of work for questionable gains.
 
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