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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 02:37 PM
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Rear Diff. fluid change

I have not done this before and had a couple of questions.
1. Is there a gasket on the cover and is it reusable? Do you use RTV to reseal?

2. Looking at the book, I should use full-syn 75W140. Any particular brand? M1 or Valv? I will be adding 4oz of friction modifier per the book.

3. Anything I should be inspecting for while open?

A pdf of instructions would be helpful if anyone has it. Thank you!

John
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 02:45 PM
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Use rtv to seal it up. I use "Right Stuff" by permatex.

75W-140 is what you need. Check the bottle and see if it already has friction modifier in it, some already do.

Check your axle breather vent and make sure it is clear.

You could put an 08+ diff cover on if you want - they are finned aluminum
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 04:25 PM
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More confusion. Went and looked in the book to see how much gear oil and it lists two different types for the truck.
75W140 for F250/350 with a 10.5" axle

And

75W90 for F-350 with a Dana 80 gears.
How do you tell the difference since I have a F-350? Only thing on original window sticker related is 3.73 limited slip.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 04:44 PM
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single rear wheel use the Sterling 10.5 inch axle and need the specified synthetic 75w140. Be sure you get the one without friction mondifier so you can add the appropropriate amount. I always add a bit less and see how it goes. The Dana 80 axle is in the dally one ton version.

1. Remove cover, drain oil into suitable receptacle for recycling.
2. Clean out pumpkin and diff cover and bolts
3. Light beeped of RTV or suitable on the cover and let set up, then bolt down with plug out for refilling.
4. Refill axle and appropriate friction modifier, I do 2 ounces first step, run it, see how it works. Then add one more if needed.
5. Clean up shop and perform beverage quality control of your choice.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 05:38 PM
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Double post.
 

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Old Jan 10, 2016 | 05:52 PM
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A little footnote in the owners manual with SRW and DRW would make life easier. Crawled under and checked the tag before I read your reply. Should get it knocked out tomorrow.

Looked like Valvoline came without the friction mod. and the Mobil 1 had it in it for an extra $5 a quart at Advance Auto.

Thanks for the input from both!
 
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 05:26 PM
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Got started tonight. The RTV ford uses is like super glue. If you have never done it, I took a razor blade around the bottom of the seal. Started on pass side and by the time I got to the driver side it was good and loose with fluid coming out.

Questions and should I be concerned?
1. The refil plug was packed with a thick black goo. Cleaning it out before re-installing.

2. The oil was frothy. Both in the pan and on the gears. See picture below.





Frothy on the bottom right.





John
 
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 05:33 PM
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I think you had some water in there at some point
 
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 05:36 PM
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I think you had some water in there at some point
That's what I was thinking. Clean it up good and move on with life.
 
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Water, yes.

I like to clean out the metal sludge out of the lower sump as well so additional wear particles have somewhere to settle. Considering you'll never be able to get all the water out of there, I'd do another change out soon once it gets mixed in with the new lubricant.
 
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Water, yes.

I like to clean out the metal sludge out of the lower sump as well so additional wear particles have somewhere to settle. Considering you'll never be able to get all the water out of there, I'd do another change out soon once it gets mixed in with the new lubricant.
Will do on a day that's warmer than 25F. Gear oil is thick and slow at that temp. And my body didn't like it much either. I will pay for this for about a week.

Thanks all for the assistance.

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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 02:08 AM
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Before breaking the seal did you drive around to heat up the gear oil? This will help next time. Also I would suggest a gasket scraper for breaking the seal on the cover. If you don't like applying the RTV Lubelocker has gaskets available instead.
 
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Originally Posted by Jerky's_06 F350
Will do on a day that's warmer than 25F. Gear oil is thick and slow at that temp. And my body didn't like it much either. I will pay for this for about a week.

Thanks all for the assistance.

John
LOL--you sound like me John. I hate working out in the cold since it takes SO long to recover. I've got a small oil leak up on the engine I'm waiting for summer to address. Until then, it can leak--haha.
 
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