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Old Sep 14, 2015 | 08:10 PM
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Water Pump Rebuild Questions 52 F3



Driver side pump looks to have been rebuilt at some time and wrong pulley. I don't see how new style kit would work in this housing.




Bore doesn't look like it would take the new style kit.


 
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Passenger side pump. This one looks to be aftermarket. I think kit will fit this one.


 
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Shaft on driver side original Ford pump is .690". Passenger side pump shaft is .625".


Both housings are solid. I just don't know if kits I see on line will fit.
 
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You have two different style pumps. Ford used bushing pumps in most applications through some of 1949. Ford then switched to 100% production of the ball bearing style pumps. You have one of each. If you do rebuild the bushing pump make very sure the oil supply passage going to the bushing is clean and clear.
 
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The bushing pump still has an oil cup. Couldn't have been doing anything as there was no hole in the bushing under it. Is there another source for oil?


So that's why the pump has the early style pulley? Entire pump is earlier than 1952?


I may just clean these up and save for later. I need to get truck running and out of my driveway before the HOA police get me. Maybe some Speedway or Drake pumps for now.
 
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Yes, the bushing pump is earlier than 1952. You find all sorts of part swaps on these old trucks. Previous owners would install almost anything to keep a truck on the road. The bushing will be porous so adding oil to the oil cup does lubricate the shaft, eventually.

Back in 2003 we installed new Speedway pumps on Dad's 40 sedan. At that time the pumps looked and performed well. I haven't purchased new pumps since then though.

At least on the pre-8BA style flathead there is an oil passage under the water pumps. You can see the hole in this picture, it is next between and to the left of the two bolts in the lower right of the picture (note that the block is upside down in this picture):
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 08:46 AM
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No oil hole on the 8BA's. Are you sure you aren't thinking of the distributor oiling on the 59's, Fred? I thought the cups were all that was provided.
 
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No, the water pumps have a small oil passage too. It is not pressurized oil, I think it is oil thrown off the timing gears. You can see the end of the passage in the picture I posted. There is a corresponding hole in what is left of the water pump to block gasket.
 
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