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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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3.31 or 3.55 any real difference?

I'm going back and forth on which gears to order. I like the look of the 20" wheels, but the 3.31 gears may help with MPG unless the 18" tires cause the gearing to be basically the same as the 3.55 with the 20s.

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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 10:05 PM
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There is a post here someplace where all the math for all the ratios and tire sizes has been calculated. There is no statistically significant difference between 18 inch and 20 inch rims with the factory installed tire sizes. Ford agrees because they rate the trucks to handle exactly the same loads and tow exactly the same weights. I tow 13000 pounds of fiver with my F350 SRW CC SB FX4 with 3.55 gears and 20 inch rubber.. It weighs 22300 pounds which is 1200 pounds under GCVWR. The truck pulls the fiver as fast as I want to go. It will pull 9% 3 mile long grades at 65 mph. I am completely satisfied with its ability.

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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 06:44 AM
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There is a post here someplace where all the math for all the ratios and tire sizes has been calculated. There is no statistically significant difference between 18 inch and 20 inch rims with the factory installed tire sizes. Ford agrees because they rate the trucks to handle exactly the same loads and tow exactly the same weights. I tow 13000 pounds of fiver with my F350 SRW CC SB FX4 with 3.55 gears and 20 inch rubber.. It weighs 22300 pounds which is 1200 pounds under GCVWR. The truck pulls the fiver as fast as I want to go. It will pull 9% 3 mile long grades at 65 mph. I am completely satisfied with its ability.

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Thanks, Rick. I wasn't concerned about the pulling ability as much as wondering if an unloaded truck with 3.31 and 18s would squeak out a little more MPG above the same truck with 3.55s and 20s.

I'll look for the post you mentioned.

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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 08:57 AM
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The tire revolutions per mile are too close to make a measurable difference. Hyper milers may see some improvement. The real issue is this. When you get your new truck, it is so much fun to drive that mileage becomes secondary to the unbelievable acceleration this 8200 pound truck exhibits...not too good on fuel when you are having that much fun. I really liked the look of the 20 inch wheels and the Michelins.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rickatic
The tire revolutions per mile are too close to make a measurable difference. Hyper milers may see some improvement. The real issue is this. When you get your new truck, it is so much fun to drive that mileage becomes secondary to the unbelievable acceleration this 8200 pound truck exhibits...not too good on fuel when you are having that much fun. I really liked the look of the 20 inch wheels and the Michelins.
I agree about the pedal to the metal thing with a new truck...and the fact that the 20s fill up the wheel well so much better. I always thought my 05 looked funny with those 17s in the wheel wells.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggziff
...I always thought my 05 looked funny with those 17s in the wheel wells.
Yeah, that was one of the two things I ended up not liking about my '05 (the other was the 6.0 Navistar).

I went with the 18" wheels, because a guestimate before purchase was that with those, my F350 would be an inch or so lower than with the 20" wheels and stock tires, and I'd be able to clear the garage door.

Well, it clears, as long as there's no dust on top of the cab or on the bottom door seal, and the 18" wheels and tires are better looking than what was on the '05, but there's no doubt the 20" wheels and tires look better yet.


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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FourOneTons
Yeah, that was one of the two things I ended up not liking about my '05 (the other was the 6.0 Navistar).

I went with the 18" wheels, because a guestimate before purchase was that with those, my F350 would be an inch or so lower than with the 20" wheels and stock tires, and I'd be able to clear the garage door.

Well, it clears, as long as there's no dust on top of the cab or on the bottom door seal, and the 18" wheels and tires are better looking than what was on the '05, but there's no doubt the 20" wheels and tires look better yet.


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What if there is "a little mud on the tires"?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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As long as we are talking about tire sizes......I have 18's with 3.31. I would like to eventually put 20's on, is that a problem with the 3.31 axle?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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What if there is "a little mud on the tires"?

LOL. I live in the desert. Mud is rarely a problem.

BTW....What's this ice stuff you guys keep talking about?




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As long as we are talking about tire sizes......I have 18's with 3.31. I would like to eventually put 20's on, is that a problem with the 3.31 axle?
I'd guess you might notice a little difference if you're pulling a heavy trailer up a grade. I'm willing to bet the 6.7 has enough power either way.

I've got the 3.55, and really didn't consider having it any other way. Some option I can't remember--maybe the FX4 or the E-locker--triggered the 3.55 only, and Bob was my uncle.


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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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If you look at the video's from the "Ohio Meet", Crazy001's truck has 18 inch tires. Mine has 20 inch Michelin's. Our times were too close to call. I have 3.55 gears and I think he does as well...Based on how strong my truck is with 13000 pounds behind it, 3.31 with 20's will work well.
 
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