6.0 The Perfect Storm
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6.0 The Perfect Storm
YouTube - 6.0L POWERSTROKE - THE PERFECT STORM
Not sure the accuracy of this report, but if the 6.0 was really designed by a European group I got to say WTF was Ford and International thinking!
BTW it is reported the 7.3 was designed by International!
Not sure the accuracy of this report, but if the 6.0 was really designed by a European group I got to say WTF was Ford and International thinking!
BTW it is reported the 7.3 was designed by International!
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A lot of truth there but bottom line he is a saleman selling a product. We now know how to prevent a lot of the pitfalls but you do have to be pro-active. Re-active costs more money than pro-active.
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If that guys pitch is accurate it sounds like a mis-application of a good base engine. Doesn't the military use or plan to use a lot of these motors?
Diesel has been big in European vehicles for a long time. They are very efficient, great power, quiet, etc. I think our light diesels in north America are not really in the same class.
Also the fuel quality in Europe is supposed to exceed the stuff we get in North America.
When I worked on a project in Peru - lots of 2nd hand European diesel trucks were operating under the most severe service - you were hard pressed to see a North American truck. Had to take my hat off to those Volvo's and Mercedes engines.
Diesel has been big in European vehicles for a long time. They are very efficient, great power, quiet, etc. I think our light diesels in north America are not really in the same class.
Also the fuel quality in Europe is supposed to exceed the stuff we get in North America.
When I worked on a project in Peru - lots of 2nd hand European diesel trucks were operating under the most severe service - you were hard pressed to see a North American truck. Had to take my hat off to those Volvo's and Mercedes engines.
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ok first to the op yes the 7.3 aka "444" was / is a navastar engine. no shock there.
yes the 7.3, 6.0, and the 6.4 were bus and small truck engines. they were not built or disigned for passanger diesel useage.
all this is a sales pitch for a gauge/ alarm system to that can be done with a smiple set of gauges.
once again bill the "db" at it again
yes the 7.3, 6.0, and the 6.4 were bus and small truck engines. they were not built or disigned for passanger diesel useage.
all this is a sales pitch for a gauge/ alarm system to that can be done with a smiple set of gauges.
once again bill the "db" at it again
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ok first to the op yes the 7.3 aka "444" was / is a navastar engine. no shock there.
yes the 7.3, 6.0, and the 6.4 were bus and small truck engines. they were not built or disigned for passanger diesel useage.
all this is a sales pitch for a gauge/ alarm system to that can be done with a smiple set of gauges.
once again bill the "db" at it again
yes the 7.3, 6.0, and the 6.4 were bus and small truck engines. they were not built or disigned for passanger diesel useage.
all this is a sales pitch for a gauge/ alarm system to that can be done with a smiple set of gauges.
once again bill the "db" at it again
Hey Cheezit, Did I say the same thing but a little more politely??
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yup ya did. I just figured I would get stright to the point.
I wish that guy would just
or as we say at work RTFFB
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ok first to the op yes the 7.3 aka "444" was / is a navastar engine. no shock there.
yes the 7.3, 6.0, and the 6.4 were bus and small truck engines. they were not built or disigned for passanger diesel useage.
all this is a sales pitch for a gauge/ alarm system to that can be done with a smiple set of gauges.
once again bill the "db" at it again
yes the 7.3, 6.0, and the 6.4 were bus and small truck engines. they were not built or disigned for passanger diesel useage.
all this is a sales pitch for a gauge/ alarm system to that can be done with a smiple set of gauges.
once again bill the "db" at it again
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How do think the Dodge boys would feel if they found out there 6.7 wasn't designed by Cummins?
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Well, my 2 cents ... Being in Europe, I'm not sure to believe this. Europe has been designing and using diesel or gas high pressure engines, not high pressure oil. Ask mecanics here, they can hardly believe the PSD is oil hp driven. Now only does the 6.7L function the same way than an european design, eg diesel common rail.
Further to that, Europe was using Californian emissions as a base for years, that is after 2000, until when the Europeans voted for stiffer emissions standards. Only since 2007 are our emissions standards higher than in the US. This is why the 7.3L and the 6L were able to enter Europe before then. Now it's a different ball game. You can only buy gas engines from the US and I'm not sure until when.
Further to that, Europe was using Californian emissions as a base for years, that is after 2000, until when the Europeans voted for stiffer emissions standards. Only since 2007 are our emissions standards higher than in the US. This is why the 7.3L and the 6L were able to enter Europe before then. Now it's a different ball game. You can only buy gas engines from the US and I'm not sure until when.
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Yes, fuel quality is higher here. By reading the forums I can see that's it's one your main concerns. I'm wondering what the impact of fuel quality will be in regards to an engine design like the 6.7L.
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So why does diesel in the US cost more than gasoline if it is of low quality? Use to be it was cheaper and it made owning a diesel alot more sensible. Now that it is higher than gas it takes away some of the advantages.
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