Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

EBPV tube fitting for pyrometer?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:21 PM
  #1  
Highridge's Avatar
Highridge
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 99
Likes: 1
From: Westport MA
EBPV tube fitting for pyrometer?

Since I've deleted my EBPV and my tube is all rotted, would the fitting that connects the tube to the manifold be a good place to put a pyrometer thermocouple or would it be better to cap it and drill a hole elsewhere?

Thanks
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:28 PM
  #2  
big poppa's Avatar
big poppa
Post Fiend
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 10,977
Likes: 5
From: Lancaster, Pa.
Very good question, subscribing......
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:17 PM
  #3  
frdf250's Avatar
frdf250
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,866
Likes: 8
From: Fleetwood, PA
are you talking about the EBPS the little sensor right in the front of the engine?
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:23 PM
  #4  
tdpower's Avatar
tdpower
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,340
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by Philip Berardi
are you talking about the EBPS the little sensor right in the front of the engine?

Yeah, I think he talking about the sensor. The tube goes down to the exhaust manifold. I have mine plugged as well and curious if that would be a good location. Not sure if the wiring would go that far?
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:28 PM
  #5  
frdf250's Avatar
frdf250
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,866
Likes: 8
From: Fleetwood, PA
good point grant, that would be ten times easier though. mines plugged aswell. i wonder if that would work becuase the heat in the manifold travels past the pyro up the up-pipes to the exhaust port on the turbo....in the front there is only goes up to the pyro and stops, almost would be enough space to move the air and get an accurate reading, im thinking that the heat would stay in there...idk just an idea
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:37 PM
  #6  
tdpower's Avatar
tdpower
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,340
Likes: 2
If the probe was in front of one cylinder you might not get an accurate reading because the the exhaust valve opening and closing. At the end of the manifold it would seem to reason that it would be more of an average reading. I could be wrong though....lol.....Were is Gene when you need him?
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:42 PM
  #7  
frdf250's Avatar
frdf250
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,866
Likes: 8
From: Fleetwood, PA
lol we could just have a convo back and forth till he gets here? hahaha, i see your point though, too bad i already did a crappy job tapping my manifold
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:51 PM
  #8  
tdpower's Avatar
tdpower
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,340
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by Philip Berardi
lol we could just have a convo back and forth till he gets here? hahaha, i see your point though, too bad i already did a crappy job tapping my manifold

Was it just keeping the tap straight. As long as it's not leaking you should be fine. I'm getting ready to do this soon.
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:03 PM
  #9  
frdf250's Avatar
frdf250
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,866
Likes: 8
From: Fleetwood, PA
Originally Posted by tdpower
Was it just keeping the tap straight. As long as it's not leaking you should be fine. I'm getting ready to do this soon.
i used the wrong tap by accident. it dosent leak, just need to get the 1/8" tap to do it the right way
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:12 PM
  #10  
big poppa's Avatar
big poppa
Post Fiend
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 10,977
Likes: 5
From: Lancaster, Pa.
Originally Posted by Philip Berardi
i used the wrong tap by accident. it dosent leak, just need to get the 1/8" tap to do it the right way
Give me a call Philip, I have the manifold drill and tap kit. Grant, you too, just shoot me a PM if you need it.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2010 | 06:17 AM
  #11  
Highridge's Avatar
Highridge
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 99
Likes: 1
From: Westport MA
I was thinking of getting rid of the tube all together and coupling the pyro to the fitting on the manifold, if that makes any sense? My sensor is zip tied out of the way since its not connected to the tube any more.
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2010 | 06:47 PM
  #12  
Highridge's Avatar
Highridge
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 99
Likes: 1
From: Westport MA
Update:
So I installed my pyro tonight(brand new Isspro EV2) and attached the thermocouple to the fitting on the manifold previously used by the ebpv tube. When I first started the truck it was saying around 100 then driving around town +/-250 then when I really got on it on the highway the highest I got was +/-350 so either somethings wrong with my pyro(any ideas) or its the location. I'll check my wiring tomorrow but I'm leaning toward the location of the thermocouple right now.

Thanks
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2010 | 07:02 PM
  #13  
mongo75's Avatar
mongo75
Postmaster
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,754
Likes: 1
From: Indianapolis
I'd say that it's probably the sensor, because that tube should get a lot hotter than that! Is the probe in the exhaust manifold deep enough? Mine at idle is about 300, and at cruise (2100-2200 rpm) about 650, and when I stand on it I'll push it up to 1500 if I want.
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2010 | 07:05 PM
  #14  
Highridge's Avatar
Highridge
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 99
Likes: 1
From: Westport MA
The tip of the sensor is just about in the manifold. I think if I did a normal install with a drill and tap it would be in a lot deeper but you would think the sensor should still be getting hot enough.
 
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2010 | 07:21 PM
  #15  
tdpower's Avatar
tdpower
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,340
Likes: 2
Did you have to use an adapter? I was looking at the plug and I believe it was 1/4 npt. Definitely not a 1/8 on mine. I also saw that you should not cut and splice the wire. Hopefully yours was long enough. I would try at the end of the manifold.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:02 PM.