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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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I have a 2003 F350 6.0 Built 03/03 cranks but will not start. Battery voltage is 11.5 volt Fuel seem good and fuel pressure at secondary fuel filter is 50 PSI. I have a Snap On analizer connected to vehicle I have over 500 psi ICP, 48 volts FICM. I did have a logged fault for camshaft perfomance low and now during cranking the FICMSYNC stays no. Does anyone have any knowledge to further test the camshaft sensor?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Most of the time the camshaft sensor code is a result of the no-start, not the cause.

Is your FICM voltage at 48V KOEO and Cranking?

Battery voltage seems low also.

Have you checked for chaffing on the FICM wiring harness?

I don't think this is your issue w/ the no-start, but if you are at 50 psig fuel pressure while cranking, you will be well below 45 psig when running. You need a new fuel pressure regulator kit.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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Charge / load test the batteries, clean contacts, then verify that subsystem before you go on.

Any electrical issue mean you cannot do a valid FICM test, and also, low voltages have this nasty habit of screwing up PCMs, Instrument panels, introducing errors in volatile memory, or just plain glitch up the system.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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Ficm voltage is 48 volts during cranking seen on the analyizer

camshaft fault was a history code not current and is gone after diconnecting batteries for charge and load test.

I am going to look at Chafing now.

Also engine does try to fire on what seems acouple of cylinders. Seems like not enough fuel being delivered or at incorrect time
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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check the cmp and ckp ckts. also check at the pcm for freq readings for same.
any chance you havce a 2 channel lab scope laying around? that woudl make life easy.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bismic
I don't think this is your issue w/ the no-start, but if you are at 50 psig fuel pressure while cranking, you will be well below 45 psig when running. You need a new fuel pressure regulator kit.
Off the OP's topic, but...

I have a question about this statement. I show 50psi at key on, before starting. It maintains 50 PSI, pretty much all the time. After I start, while I'm driving, at WOT, etc. Is this not normal? It does vary slightly below and above the 50 PSI, but less than 5 PSI either way.

I have the updated spring kit, because I'd rather have it a bit higher, I just haven't had a chance to put it in yet.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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normal is closer to 55psi running. need to check it at WOT and see what you get.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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I do not have a scope But on my service tool the FICMSYNC is no and does not switch during cranking I assume it should switch to yes
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
normal is closer to 55psi running. need to check it at WOT and see what you get.
I will do that, and try to get that spring kit in there. I have the correct tools now, but unfortunately, the spirit is willing but the body is falling apart on me. It's getting a lot harder to crawl around a truck engine these days.
 
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yes it should
 
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dchamberlain
I will do that, and try to get that spring kit in there. I have the correct tools now, but unfortunately, the spirit is willing but the body is falling apart on me. It's getting a lot harder to crawl around a truck engine these days.
Man do we have a lot in common .... !!!
 
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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Well I am back on project tonight found no chafing on harness
replaced both batteries now have12.5 volts at ficm.
Fuel pressure 50
LPOP comes up to normal range during crank
HPOP pressure comes up to 530psi
ICP voltage .83V
Air filter is removed all looks normal
Performed KOEO test all ok
Perfromed injector buzz test no codes present
Engine fires during cranking but will die 5 seconds after starter disengages
I suspect 2 or more injectors This is my brother-in -laws truck and it was ran low on fuelpressure multible tiimes last winter due to fuel gelling.
Is there a way to test which injectors have failed if that is the problem
 
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the ficm should have aprox 48v not 12.
do a ballon test next. IMO anyway.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
the ficm should have aprox 48v not 12.
do a ballon test next. IMO anyway.

I think the OP is referring to 12v at the "input".
 
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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sorry 12.5 going in to ficm
ficm voltage is47.5 on scanner
for the next test you lost me I am not familer with ballon test or IMO could you explain alittle more to me
 
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