Professional auto mechanics.....
Professional auto mechanics.....
Originally posted by Diesel_Dummy _
what gets me more then anything is when one of you backyard guys think you have fixed something, then a few weeks later it comes to the shop and wondering whats wrong with it.
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your my hero steve
this thread is going nowhere and should have been closed befor it was started
what gets me more then anything is when one of you backyard guys think you have fixed something, then a few weeks later it comes to the shop and wondering whats wrong with it.
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your my hero steve
this thread is going nowhere and should have been closed befor it was started
So it's appropriate for YOU to mock other members having trouble, but when talk turns to someone like YOU not being able to figure something out, the thread needs to be closed, huh?
Professional auto mechanics.....
I'll second that Steve83. Here's another, "I am Diesel Dummy, Master Mechanic of the Universe!" quote referring to something as simple as working on balljoints,
As long as we're on the, "What get's me!" topic I'll be more than happy to jump in. So-What get's me is taking my vehicle to a shop and paying $70 an hour and having to put up with the fragile ego of the mechanic in back who thinks he knows everything and is more than willing to remind me that the only route to Heaven is thru his shop. I'm not talking of every pro mechanic- just a very few handful. The owner's of shops that employ guys like this need to make sure that they lock the doors to the shop in the morning so the mechanic doesn't have the opportunity to use the customer as a feel-good tool. It would also help to put up plenty of mirrors in the back so the mechanic can admire himself often.
That said, hats off to those mechanics that AREN'T like this (which I do think is most of you). I feel if one really likes his/her job then it definately shows in workmanship and ability to work with people. To those people/businesses I regularly tell them that I do appreciate the job they did for me and "I'll be back!" These people don't need to stroke themselves because they truly get satisfaction from a job done well and a happy customer. You also won't find them drumming for business on a net-forum because customers are already lined up at the shop door wanting to obtain their services.
Randy
he makes it sound so easy , actuley its a lot of hard work and if you have never done any type of work like this you'd probley be better off taking to a pro like me.
That said, hats off to those mechanics that AREN'T like this (which I do think is most of you). I feel if one really likes his/her job then it definately shows in workmanship and ability to work with people. To those people/businesses I regularly tell them that I do appreciate the job they did for me and "I'll be back!" These people don't need to stroke themselves because they truly get satisfaction from a job done well and a happy customer. You also won't find them drumming for business on a net-forum because customers are already lined up at the shop door wanting to obtain their services.
Randy
Last edited by PigFarmer; Feb 23, 2003 at 02:06 PM.
Professional auto mechanics.....
Steve you misunderstood my post, try reading it again this time with an open mind. i know who and why this thread was started for. nice way to conduct yourselfs on a forum such as this!
seems like some (you know who you are) here on FTE have (or think they have) had controll of this UBB for so long they feal they own it and know everything and there word is GOD and everyone else pails in comparison to there self imposed greatness.
i on the other hand think its funny and entertaining. personal attacks aimed at me on this web site will in no way alter my status as a tech and the amount of knowlage i possess.
let me try to explain my other post so Steve can understand it in a shallow minded sort of way.
i think its funny when someone who reads sites like this and listens to someone on sites like this when it comes to repairing there truck, and after all the advice they have been given still hasnt fixed there problem then I get the pleasure of actuley repairing there truck right the first time and could have saved them time and money when they eat crow and have to bring it to my shop.
Steve i dont have a problem with you , nor do i feal the need to FLOOD this site in every forum with information pertaining to everyones problems then post links to personal web sites to stroke my ego. My reputation as a mechanic speaks for itself and my customers will back it up.
i have been involved with several UBB sites such as this over the years and i can only hope that the people in charge of FTE will not let threads such as this to get started in the future.
nobody likes to be attacked for what they do for a living and and attacking someone for what they do for a living is wrong and should not be allowed on sites like this or anywhere in the real world.
seems like some (you know who you are) here on FTE have (or think they have) had controll of this UBB for so long they feal they own it and know everything and there word is GOD and everyone else pails in comparison to there self imposed greatness.
i on the other hand think its funny and entertaining. personal attacks aimed at me on this web site will in no way alter my status as a tech and the amount of knowlage i possess.
let me try to explain my other post so Steve can understand it in a shallow minded sort of way.
i think its funny when someone who reads sites like this and listens to someone on sites like this when it comes to repairing there truck, and after all the advice they have been given still hasnt fixed there problem then I get the pleasure of actuley repairing there truck right the first time and could have saved them time and money when they eat crow and have to bring it to my shop.
Steve i dont have a problem with you , nor do i feal the need to FLOOD this site in every forum with information pertaining to everyones problems then post links to personal web sites to stroke my ego. My reputation as a mechanic speaks for itself and my customers will back it up.
i have been involved with several UBB sites such as this over the years and i can only hope that the people in charge of FTE will not let threads such as this to get started in the future.
nobody likes to be attacked for what they do for a living and and attacking someone for what they do for a living is wrong and should not be allowed on sites like this or anywhere in the real world.
Last edited by Diesel_Dummy _; Feb 23, 2003 at 08:42 PM.
Professional auto mechanics.....
This joker still hasn't got a clue!! He attacks the he@$ out of anyone in his road and goes cryin' to mommy when the tables turn.
Randy
Randy
Last edited by PigFarmer; Feb 23, 2003 at 08:43 PM.
Professional auto mechanics.....
Quote:
I have noticed that there are a few professional auto mechanics that post on this board, I like having the knowledge and the expertise. However, I have noticed that they make the same mistakes most pros do, that is that they almost always recomend replacing the most expensive parts first. Just an observation.
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We are all entitled to our opinion, a great thing about this world.
It's my *opinion*,
first > that your's is a somewhat fuzzy quote, and hardly specific to *someone*, it is more a generalized statement without.
So,
I have noticed that there are a few professional auto mechanics that post on this board.
Correct, there are
I like having the knowledge and the expertise.
As I'm sure we all would
However, I have noticed that they make the same mistakes most pros do,
Who is *They* ?
The few professional mechanics on this board ?
Have you or they specifically identified them/ themselves as Pros?
Out of all the **un-countable** Licensed mechanics (pros),
How many have you met?
that is that they *almost always* recommend replacing the most expensive parts first.
Actually,on the contrary,it's been my experience that the people on here with TONS on experience seem to extend ways to diagnose the problem thus avoiding purchasing anything until the reason for the problem has been determined.
I wish more in the field mechanics at $75/hr shops would do this,or at least remove the new part put it back on the shelf and replace the still working old part back on the vehicle.
This to me is what makes FTE so great, is that there are so many thrifty people on here trying to save a buck for others, so they don't NEED to spend it unless they really have to.
That is genuine help.
That's been my experience.
Also, It's a really tough thing to offer that *Being There* helpfulness when one is typing on a computer.
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I have noticed that there are a few professional auto mechanics that post on this board, I like having the knowledge and the expertise. However, I have noticed that they make the same mistakes most pros do, that is that they almost always recomend replacing the most expensive parts first. Just an observation.
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We are all entitled to our opinion, a great thing about this world.
It's my *opinion*,
first > that your's is a somewhat fuzzy quote, and hardly specific to *someone*, it is more a generalized statement without.
So,
I have noticed that there are a few professional auto mechanics that post on this board.
Correct, there are
I like having the knowledge and the expertise.
As I'm sure we all would
However, I have noticed that they make the same mistakes most pros do,
Who is *They* ?
The few professional mechanics on this board ?
Have you or they specifically identified them/ themselves as Pros?
Out of all the **un-countable** Licensed mechanics (pros),
How many have you met?
that is that they *almost always* recommend replacing the most expensive parts first.
Actually,on the contrary,it's been my experience that the people on here with TONS on experience seem to extend ways to diagnose the problem thus avoiding purchasing anything until the reason for the problem has been determined.
I wish more in the field mechanics at $75/hr shops would do this,or at least remove the new part put it back on the shelf and replace the still working old part back on the vehicle.
This to me is what makes FTE so great, is that there are so many thrifty people on here trying to save a buck for others, so they don't NEED to spend it unless they really have to.
That is genuine help.
That's been my experience.
Also, It's a really tough thing to offer that *Being There* helpfulness when one is typing on a computer.
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Professional auto mechanics.....
In response to Deisel Dummy. Quote: "Randy-what's your problem?"
Cut the bull. I've watched your posts and anytime someone with any "real" knowledge posting for the true benefit of those of us that want to learn, your on them like the young bull that wants to take over the herd. Try less aggression and accept that people like Steve83 and others have a wealth of knowledge and that we want to hear from them too. Respect, as a knowledgable tech/mechanic, will be earned not demanded. I could care less what your certification number is. I could care less how many posts you make or don't make. And I could care less whether or not you get a kick out of being the man of the day by rescuing some shadetree repair job that went south. I do care about learning more, and the more knowledgable people that I have access to ( whether their shadetree mechs. or certified techs.) the better off I figure I'll be. If I took everything to the pro shop then why in the he%& would I need to visit this site on a daily basis? I think I would be safe in assuming that most everyone on here wants to know more about their trucks or wants to know how to fix them theirselves or wants to be able to talk the shop tech in a knowledgable way. Combined with all the other knowledgable contributors, I really do feel you can do alot to help us all out. With the way you approach things tho it makes it difficult to differentiate between ego and fact. One last thing- maybe next time, instead of criticizing that shadetree mech. for botching the job, try remembering the mistakes you made while you were learning. Remember that screwing up is a fact in the learning process and then pat him on the back for at least trying. Who knows, he might just become one of your most loyal customers.
Randy
Cut the bull. I've watched your posts and anytime someone with any "real" knowledge posting for the true benefit of those of us that want to learn, your on them like the young bull that wants to take over the herd. Try less aggression and accept that people like Steve83 and others have a wealth of knowledge and that we want to hear from them too. Respect, as a knowledgable tech/mechanic, will be earned not demanded. I could care less what your certification number is. I could care less how many posts you make or don't make. And I could care less whether or not you get a kick out of being the man of the day by rescuing some shadetree repair job that went south. I do care about learning more, and the more knowledgable people that I have access to ( whether their shadetree mechs. or certified techs.) the better off I figure I'll be. If I took everything to the pro shop then why in the he%& would I need to visit this site on a daily basis? I think I would be safe in assuming that most everyone on here wants to know more about their trucks or wants to know how to fix them theirselves or wants to be able to talk the shop tech in a knowledgable way. Combined with all the other knowledgable contributors, I really do feel you can do alot to help us all out. With the way you approach things tho it makes it difficult to differentiate between ego and fact. One last thing- maybe next time, instead of criticizing that shadetree mech. for botching the job, try remembering the mistakes you made while you were learning. Remember that screwing up is a fact in the learning process and then pat him on the back for at least trying. Who knows, he might just become one of your most loyal customers.
Randy
Last edited by PigFarmer; Feb 23, 2003 at 09:26 PM.
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randy what is your problem ?
DD (I hate to use your full screen name because I don't want it to look like I'm using it against you)
I read your post - how open does my mind need to be to decipher the enigma of 4 words (even with the misspelling)? I guess my mind is just too shallow to understand it as anything other than the sophomoric sarcastic jibe that everyone else sees that it is.
As to your next post:
seems like some (you know who you are) here on FTE have (or think they have) had controll of this UBB for so long they feal they own it
know everything and there word is GOD and everyone else pails in comparison to there self imposed greatness.
personal attacks aimed at me on this web site
let me try to explain my other post so Steve can understand it in a shallow minded sort of way
then I get the pleasure of actuley repairing there truck right the first time and could have saved them time and money when they eat crow and have to bring it to my shop
Steve i dont have a problem with you
nor do i feal the need to FLOOD this site in every forum with information pertaining to everyones problems
post links to personal web sites to stroke my ego
reputation as a mechanic speaks for itself
i have been involved with several UBB sites such as this over the years
i can only hope that the people in charge of FTE will not let threads such as this to get started in the future
nobody likes to be attacked for what they do for a living
attacking someone for what they do for a living is wrong and should not be allowed on sites like this or anywhere in the real world
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