52 f3 bed ?
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Fleet Mechanic
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52 f3 bed ?
got to wondering last night as me and my son were getting ready to pull my 63 f250 step-side out of the shed to free up some storage space for my latest purchase, how close are the 52 8 foot step-side compared to the 63 8 foot step-side. i didnt get a bed with the 52 when i bought it so i dont have anything to compare it to. if they are close maybe i will put the 63 bed on the 52? and i know this is the wrong forum, but how would i find out how many 63 f250 4x4 with a step-side bed were made, i have never seen another and i dont remember seeing any pics of one?
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Mark - I can't say exactly how it would look compared to a '52 Express bed. But I can tell you that the Express '52 bed is 96.05" long (measured inside the headboard to inside of the tale gate), and that the rear axle is located 48.26" forward of the rear outer edge of the bed. Those measurements will help you figure out if the axle would be located within the rear fenders and look acceptable.
Is the bed on your newest treasure able to be fixed? Doesn't look too awful bad in the pic. Stu
Is the bed on your newest treasure able to be fixed? Doesn't look too awful bad in the pic. Stu
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Battery would be my guess, but why I have no idea. Mark probably remembers from his inspection of the truck at the auction. You've probably noticed that it's a '52 F-2 MH. Mark and I have swapped a few notes about it. It sure helps to have a donor when you're trying to put a MH back together. IIRC Mark wasn't able to get that wheel laying on the ground next to the front of the truck. That's too bad because it's the stock F-2 MH wheel and is made of "unobtainium". Stu
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Like I said, Mark and I swapped notes about the truck after he'd lost the bid at a farm sale near where he lives. I probably should let him tell the story, but bottom line is he's now tracked it down and has bought it. Stu
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Boy, it just keeps getting more sad. that rim laying on the ground, there were six more just like it that sold seperate. i should have drove out a week earlier, looked things over, called Stu about 10 times and emailed him 20 times, then went and bought everything the first time. maybe randy bought those to, i will ask when i go pick it up. as far as the box on the right front fender, i guess it was to hold hand tools, working on fencing, etc. i dont think it ever had a lid so it must have had stuff in it that you need often and a lot of? Anyway, in my defense, the sale bill said merryman herringbone, so i drove the three hours to the sale not knowing what to expect, got there and knew it was a f2 but was unsure of the year as mother nature had her way with the vin #. didn't have enough knowledge if it was the same running gear as my f3. let it go, talked to Stu, tracked it down again, and bought it. Cant wait to get it home and my wife is THRILLED! She said its my b-day gift. She is truely a understanding woman!!!!
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Mark - We're off your original topic here, but if Randy did buy a bunch of wheels at the sale the ones for the F-2 are Budd #47210. They are 16". Look for the numbers on the concave side lips opposite the valve stems. If he bought others please see if any were my Budd # 59340s if you would. For that matter, they fit your F-3 also. Stu
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The stepside beds were the same from 53 to 72. It would look wrong to those that know. I have seen it done before on a 1/2 ton and it worked (but I thought it looked wrong...) I don't remember what was done to fit the running boards to the later fenders.
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Referring back to my first comment, the wheel base on a F-2/3 is 122". The wheel base on a '53 to '56 F-250 is 118". So, from what 38 coupe says I'd assume the later trucks would be the same. Comparing the line drawings of the '52 and '54 trucks having 8' beds, the shorter wheelbase resulted in about two extra inches of bed from the rear axle back on the later bed versus the earlier bed. That should result in the rear wheels being misaligned in the wheel arches. Supporting that conclusion, I bought a '52 F-2 rolling chassis this year that had been shortened to accommodate the use of a '53 -'56 long bed. The guy had decided to instead mount the body/bed on an S-10 chassis. Stu
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Having slept on this, I'm thinking I've read that the "slick" era (61-66) 4x4s had different frame lengths than the normal two wheel drive models. There's a reason for that, but I'm not remembering that part of what I read. So that would then mean that the bed dimensions would be different on the 4x4s also. Meaning my earlier comments may be off base. Maybe it's gonna take an adult beverage and a tape measure to resolve this one for you Mark.
As for figuring out how many 4x4s of the era were produced, the only person I can think of that may have such a reference would be Bill (Number Dummy). Stu
As for figuring out how many 4x4s of the era were produced, the only person I can think of that may have such a reference would be Bill (Number Dummy). Stu
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thanks for all the help guys, i think i will just leave the 63 bed alone and do the 52 the right way. i posted a thread on the 63 side and number dummy said there were 863 or 836 flaresides made in 1963. figure at best only half were 4x4s, so i figure that is rare enough to leave alone. i posted it on CL for $2000 just to see what would happen. if it doesnt sell it will just go back in storage at a different location. got to keep the 2 mh's together here at the homestead. thanks again for all the help, and by the way Stu, it measured out pretty close.