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In early 2011 some trucks were made with the center sections in a sort of camo looking design. some like it, some do not. I have one and I think it makes the interior look more distinctive. I have black. They also did it in the tan. Some theorize they ran out of material, supplier problem. I find that hard to believe. I think test panels (people) voted it down. Hell, my first comment was "I thought the seats were black" But I like it!!!!
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In early 2011 some trucks were made with the center sections in a sort of camo looking design. some like it, some do not. I have one and I think it makes the interior look more distinctive. I have black. They also did it in the tan. Some theorize they ran out of material, supplier problem. I find that hard to believe. I think test panels (people) voted it down. Hell, my first comment was "I thought the seats were black" But I like it!!!!
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Most of the holster manufacturers are having to buy leather outside the US, according to some of the gun magazines. The problem is the hide of the animal. The hide will not tan evenly due to the amounts of steroids given to the animal while living. Steroids make all animal's(even humans) skin thinner, drier and flaky. The hide surface becomes flaky and doesn't produce a good consistent tan. The reason the hides are bought out of the country is that the poorer nation's farmers do not have the money to buy steroids to feed the cows, so they produce healthy hides. What does this have to do with trucks, several years ago, in a some of those articles it was brought up about the auto industry converting over to a "hybrid" leather. The reason given was part of the decision, as well as how the hides 'wear' over time. I have a holster supplier that gets all of his hides from South America. He says his reputation was made on a good looking, functioning product and he has to get the best hides he can. So he says, unfortunately, he has to go elsewhere. I am not in the leather industry, just relaying what I've heard and read.....
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I think the article was written by some kind of activist. We have about 500 cows. My cousin has about 400 and I know a bunch of people that total thousands. There is no BGH in the milk, no matter what you have heard. We sell to ******** and it is in the contract. The milk is sampled in the bulk tank before pickup. The temp, butterfat, and various other tests are done including testing for antibiotics and steroids. No one I know uses steroids. If it was in the cow it would be in the milk or the beef. We get this all the time. Environmentalists, organic nut jobs etc. make all kinds of claims and people believe them. All leather in the US comes from animals used for other purposes. If they get their leather from South America, it is because it is cheaper. But claiming better quality sounds better than saying that.
That said, the beef industry is typically more rife with steroid use than the dairy one, and they don't typically use dairy animals for leather products.
However, these trucks have very little actual leather on the seats, if I recall correctly, its just the side bolster panels on both the seat bottom and the seat back. The rest of it is synthetic leather, as real leather wears thru, unless its very thick (i.e. expensive), and you typically won't find full leather interiors on all but the most expensive of vehicles (Rolls Royce etc.)
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I think the article was written by some kind of activist. We have about 500 cows. My cousin has about 400 and I know a bunch of people that total thousands. There is no BGH in the milk, no matter what you have heard. We sell to ******** and it is in the contract. The milk is sampled in the bulk tank before pickup. The temp, butterfat, and various other tests are done including testing for antibiotics and steroids. No one I know uses steroids. If it was in the cow it would be in the milk or the beef. We get this all the time. Environmentalists, organic nut jobs etc. make all kinds of claims and people believe them. All leather in the US comes from animals used for other purposes. If they get their leather from South America, it is because it is cheaper. But claiming better quality sounds better than saying that.
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Most of the holster manufacturers are having to buy leather outside the US, according to some of the gun magazines. The problem is the hide of the animal. The hide will not tan evenly due to the amounts of steroids given to the animal while living. Steroids make all animal's(even humans) skin thinner, drier and flaky. The hide surface becomes flaky and doesn't produce a good consistent tan. The reason the hides are bought out of the country is that the poorer nation's farmers do not have the money to buy steroids to feed the cows, so they produce healthy hides. What does this have to do with trucks, several years ago, in a some of those articles it was brought up about the auto industry converting over to a "hybrid" leather. The reason given was part of the decision, as well as how the hides 'wear' over time. I have a holster supplier that gets all of his hides from South America. He says his reputation was made on a good looking, functioning product and he has to get the best hides he can. So he says, unfortunately, he has to go elsewhere. I am not in the leather industry, just relaying what I've heard and read.....
First steroids do not make human skin thinner. Been on them for over 10 years for hormone replacement. That's a fallacy. Now cortisone over use will thin the skin.
Secondly, fina cartridges are what beef producers use for their cattle. They implant them in the cow. But they cow isn't a cow version of arnold or rocky. Yes it helps them increase in size but if you we're to feed cows the steroids your implying, no one would buy them as they would be as tough as a super duty tire to eat.
There are so many myths around steroids it's scary.
Should steroids be taken totally out of beef production? You bet, I don't think any hormones should be in the system but that's a talk for another time and place.
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It's odd that this discussion took this turn, but I just recently read this article about steroids in baseball and heard an interview with a former olympic weightlifter who helped shed some light on the misconceptions about steroids, mostly that people thing it can make anyone a better athlete and that they're a lazy man's easy out. All they really do is allow athletes to work harder by enabling them to recover faster. Steroids don't make people more athletic, just allow them to be stronger if they work at it enough. You can pump me full of steroids, but I'm still not setting any baseball records because there's no way I am a good enough athlete to hit against an MLB pitcher. Hell, Michael Jordan couldn't do it in the minors.
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