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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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ATS Air Intake for Excursion

Was looking to purchase the stage 1 intake from ATS. I don't have any other mods on the truck except edge juice which I never use. Truck is a 2005 with 45,000 original miles on it. Is this a smart purchase or should I put my money elsewhere?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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What are you trying to gain, or what do you use the truck for? more power, better towing, rod-rodding, lower egts?
kit looks similar to most cold air kits. could go with the Ford Extreme Duty kit too or you could start with a simple Napa filter swap and exhaust to get more air in and out of the motor.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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I would either stay with the stock one which is great or go S&B
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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Gauges first before doing anything else. That way you have a baseline
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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I don't have gauges yet, but it is the most important when modding. If you're just wanting to spend $400 for the heck of it, I'd would spend it else where. It would also help us to know the specs of your truck so that we can give you our best answer.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Gauges meaning?? I mean I have the edge monitor in my truck that has boost, egt temp and all the other stuff. The truck is a 2005 4x4 limited 6.0L with 45k on the dial. I have 37.5" toyo's with lift. I am looking to beef it up a bit for towing my boat..21 ft searay. I have only pulled it once and it actually did really well but I am having some trouble once I get past about 65 mph the truck starts to cut out a bit and I notice the egt's are reaching 1025 and that seems to be where its doing it everytime. I have increased the egt temp to 1300 on the programmer but that has not corrected the problem. Again, I do not use the juice, it stays on zero. It was in the truck when I purchased the vehicle and I know zero about them so I just left it alone. I first want to correct the cutting out problem and then move on to better performance mods for the engine thats why I was asking about an aftermarket filter but from what I have been reading they seem to be hit or miss on the turbo dusting.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Sorry forgot to mention, I'm just a beginner here in the diesel world so any advice would be greatly appreciated. hwybee22....my excursion looks almost identical to yours from what I can tell in your avatar...maybe a little bigger
 
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Originally Posted by EpikExcursion
Gauges meaning?? I mean I have the edge monitor in my truck that has boost, egt temp and all the other stuff. The truck is a 2005 4x4 limited 6.0L with 45k on the dial. I have 37.5" toyo's with lift. I am looking to beef it up a bit for towing my boat..21 ft searay. I have only pulled it once and it actually did really well but I am having some trouble once I get past about 65 mph the truck starts to cut out a bit and I notice the egt's are reaching 1025 and that seems to be where its doing it everytime. I have increased the egt temp to 1300 on the programmer but that has not corrected the problem. Again, I do not use the juice, it stays on zero. It was in the truck when I purchased the vehicle and I know zero about them so I just left it alone. I first want to correct the cutting out problem and then move on to better performance mods for the engine thats why I was asking about an aftermarket filter but from what I have been reading they seem to be hit or miss on the turbo dusting.
For what you are towing and with stock everything, why do you worry at 1025?

IF the edge is not affecting the engine at all and all it does is monitoring, I would think that is fine AS LONG AS the pyro is in the exhaust manifold not somewhere else.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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I don't worry at 1025....my concern is for some reason it starts cutting out when it reaches that temp like the edge is telling it to defuel or something and I cannot for the life of me figure out why its doing that? Especially when the edge is just used as a monitoring device. How can I tell if its in the right spot??
 
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Originally Posted by EpikExcursion
I don't worry at 1025....my concern is for some reason it starts cutting out when it reaches that temp like the edge is telling it to defuel or something and I cannot for the life of me figure out why its doing that? Especially when the edge is just used as a monitoring device. How can I tell if its in the right spot??
What is the boost when it tries to defuel? IIRC, the stock program does not like you to run more than 24 psi. At that point, it defuels. That is why we have an overboost annihilator that stops the sensor from getting to see too much boost. I think that some programmers have found a way to prevent the ECM from defueling at that boost level. Not sure.

If you say the edge is just a monitoring device, it should not affect anything. What is the model?

How to tell if it is in the right spot? Look at the model and see the manual. It should show you a pic of where to insert the pyrometer. Check the location and if it is in the manifold, all is good.
 
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I'd look into a SCT tuner for alittle more power to maybe get rid of the hiccup at 65mph. The air filter could help, I'm not sure. Make sure to hang out over at 6.0 forum
 
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Originally Posted by hwybee22
I'd look into a SCT tuner for alittle more power to maybe get rid of the hiccup at 65mph. The air filter could help, I'm not sure. Make sure to hang out over at 6.0 forum
If he is stock, why is he having that hiccup? If he gets a tuner, any tuner, it might exacerbate the problem he is having. I like to solve the problem first before doing anything else. What do you think of totally disconnecting the Edge stuff and see where it goes?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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If you are not towing, do you have any issues past 65 or if you get your EGTs up to 1100 degrees?
Has it been regeared? what RPMs are you running at 65mph currently?
 
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I would be up for disconnecting the programmer all together if that is where the problem lies....this is a problem when I am driving the truck with no load also...boost I will have to check but I have seen it up past 40. Egt's around 850-950 @ 65 mph without towing anything (which is normal). RPM's are below 2k. Also, the defuel on the programmer reads 0 which means it doesnt have a certain point to start defueling
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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Are you talking about the BackDown % defuel? 0 would be not having the Edge defuel at all- but this only happens at the MAX EGT that you have set (1250-1300) doesn't sound like you are bumping up against that.

You can also set it to not defuel at WOT shifting, but should not be a 0 setting.
 
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