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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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OOOOOoooooo, this is good! We've got some votes for screw the IDI and throw a cummins in, and some that 600ft-lbs is very doable... See, I like the cummins, and I admit its a better motor, but the IDI has CHARACTER, it would be way more awesome to get that power out of an IDI than a cummins or PSD. I don't need to 'win out' I guess over others, but compete with them, you know, not come out last ever time. So far as droppin in a cummins, there are a few running 12V for sale for around $1200 running. Also, someone asked which ones can fit, and thats the 5.9L and the 6.7L.

In theory, none of the mods I listed are that expensive, total for that should be less than 4k, or am I mistaken? I'm not lookin for a 500hp IDI, a 300-350hp is perfect, and that should put me at 600ft-lbs at the rear. I'm guessing as it stands now, its at 360ft-lbs at the rear, which isn't bad, but it won't be competing with many other trucks. (I'm estimating based on some 0-60 times for my truck and a jeep w/ a known power output)

Remember I don't have a lot of money, infact at 4k, I would be into the truck for less than the KBB value, including buying the truck. So I'm still doing good! Also, I HAVE a PSD motor lying around, so that swap isn't that expensive, but it does require a lot of wiring work, and I would probably have to buy a parts truck.

Thanks for the great replies, this is awesome
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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My 1994 will eat my stroke alive when it put it on the stock tune. But one click of the **** to the performance tune and my brother is eating my smoke. If still had the IDI it would have a moose pump and injectors. And a rebuilt trans. I would say it would be right with my stroke. But for the same money for a moose pump and injectors i could get a set of stage 2's and adrenaline hpop and destroy the IDI so. It all depends on what numbers your looking for. With a little work you could have wicked IDI but have more custom parts vs a stroke or cummins.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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moose pump 1500, moose misters 900.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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ok so less money lol.
Injectors are 1285
HPOP 600
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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ok so less money lol.
Injectors are 1285
HPOP 600
But Powerstroke parts are way more expensive.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Very true. I agree though a 400 horse IDI would be awesome. For the money i would put a cummins to build big numbers in the place of my idi. A powerstroke swap would be a big project. Go check out in the general discussion. There is a thread of the complete swap from a gas engine. Would be about the same amount of work.
A 12 valve with a 5spd would be really easy. 4 wires and start it. Much simpler.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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I was being a bit sarcastic because everyone here always says that PSD parts are obscenely expensive, yet you can get a HPOP and injectors for less than you can for the IDI... I really do like the IDI motor. The "simplicity" is there, but then you look at the return line system the wrong way and it leaks. Most things are easily accessible and it's a mechanical diesel, so it should go for quite some time. Dave S. performed an awesome build on his 6.9L. Search for his specs.

The 12V is a good motor. I really do like the I6 diesels. Funny I ended up with two V8 diesels. Fords are WAY more comfortable than Dodges though. 12V I6 diesel in a comfy truck... WIN.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 10:11 PM
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here is a quick one to play devils advocate, how much does the 12V weigh? Being six cylinders it may weigh considerable less in that it may help those elusive numbers. If it can produce same HP and more of our IDI's but weigh considerably less then it might just be a better option. Take 200 or so pounds off of my truck and that HP to Weight ratio improves a lot. Say as if i removed the bed of the truck, about 300 pounds, i would win over a stock truck every time that had the extra weight. Things to ponder hahaha.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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Cummins 12V ~975lbs

6.9L IDI ~920lbs
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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LMFAO never mind, must have been the connecting rods size! hahaha those things make the powerstroke connecting rods look like Lincoln logs!
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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Is the moose pump really $1500????!!!!!!! (I thought it was ~$500) I knew the injectors were about that, but for the pump?

Dang it, now I'm leaning towards a Cummins... Get the motor for $1200, put $800 in it, and all adapters for about $800 - total of $2800 for a swap. I paid $3k for the truck - so that's a $5800 CC Long bed lifted F-350 with a Cummins!

Back to a bit more on the IDI though.. wasn't there someone getting 480ft-lbs RWTQ? I believe they were pushing 15-16psi boost, and had the moose pump and injectors, with no further mods (besides maybe studs)? That would make it seem easy to get another 120ft-lbs.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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no, 500 deposit before he will touch the pump. then its another 500-1000 depending on what it needs.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by oreocreaming
no, 500 deposit before he will touch the pump. then its another 500-1000 depending on what it needs.
Say I give him a freshly rebuilt pump - with less than 10k on it?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 02:18 AM
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500 deposit plus another 500-1000 lol. hes got 3 stages of pumps too. cheaper for the non turbo setup, turbo and high performance go up from there
 
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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500 deposit plus another 500-1000 lol. hes got 3 stages of pumps too. cheaper for the non turbo setup, turbo and high performance go up from there
Ouch... if it helps I'm interested in the standard 'turbo' moose pump, not the ultra fuel dumping one lol.
 
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