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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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I fart in that truck every time I sit in the seat. I'm sure that seat has a permanent smell of rotten crotch that has roasted down to the very core. But no I haven't done anything to it. The truck has just sat in the driveway for the past 2 days.
Well you treat your truck about like me... If you've been particularly flatulent lately maybe you rattled something loose?


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I call that fat pig a bitch every chance I get. She's a dirty tramp who can't stay running for more than 2 weeks at a time before she breaks down, leaves me stranded, and ditches me like the $2 ***** she is. Can you tell I'm frustrated with this truck????
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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That no start theory the guys mentioned is a good guess, it will crank and crank and crank, did I mention crank..and will allow fuel to keep pouring.. Now I'm cracking up from those remarks made above, lol, O boy..
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 05:30 PM
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I remember reading in another post F350-6 mentioning that if your eot sensor was acting up it could lead to GP's, timing, and other stuff making for a hard start.

My second shot in the dark
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Try unplugging the PCM for a half a minute or so.....

I have run into STUPID problems when the KAM (keep alive memory) gets corrupt by some weird reason. When you take chips and programs out of and back into the truck as often as I do........you see some unconventional things happen. It happened to my truck again about a week ago.

It's worth the 2 minutes to try it.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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since it's getting fuel are you sure it's getting air?...other than compression thats all it needs to fire.

and yet another wag
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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Can you put a battery charger on the truck for a few hours before trying again? I know you said battery voltage is good, was that measurement at the battery or at the IDM?
Maybe put a jump start on it from a running vehicle. We know that out trucks tend to eat starters, Is the starter cable clean and tight at the starter? Is the starter spinning the engine faster than 100 RPM? Is the tach bouncing when trying to start? Just another thought, is the Cam position sensor good?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by onelionhunter
Even though its rolling over, is it gettting enough voltage for it to fire? WAG from my side I guess, but maybe its not seeing the 10.5 volt min needed.
Yep, it's holding 11 volts while I cranked. Batteries are also pretty new Duralasts gold tops.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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By any chance is your tuner in no start? A couple of people have had theirs go into no start for no rhyme or reason
Nope, I don't have a no start tune loaded on the chip. Never have. I also pulled the chip out and tried cranking. And I had the chip out when I datalogged with AE while cranking.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarpicr
Do u have a kill switch mod on the injector relay by chance? Just a dumb thought.
No kill switch.


off topic: I should have multi-quoted these post, would have saved me some time posting
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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That's what i was going to say, make sure u aren't in no start. Maybe u bumped it to no start and didn't know. Then if not you have nothing to lose by unplugging the fuel bowl heater and trying that.
Well, my fuel bowl is just over a year old. Plus I still have a WTS light that's functioning normally, so I don't have the typical symptoms of a bad fuel bowl heater. Plus it's firing fuel, so the fuel is there, I'm just completely stumped as to why it won't catch.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by izzybird
I remember reading in another post F350-6 mentioning that if your eot sensor was acting up it could lead to GP's, timing, and other stuff making for a hard start.

My second shot in the dark
I did check EOT. Ambient temps were 80 degrees and rising (it was about noon when I tried to start my truck), and EOT was reading 70 degrees.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Try unplugging the PCM for a half a minute or so.....

I have run into STUPID problems when the KAM (keep alive memory) gets corrupt by some weird reason. When you take chips and programs out of and back into the truck as often as I do........you see some unconventional things happen. It happened to my truck again about a week ago.

It's worth the 2 minutes to try it.
Now there's something I've never heard about or thought about. I'll give that a try.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by clem1226
since it's getting fuel are you sure it's getting air?...other than compression thats all it needs to fire.

and yet another wag
Well after driving 3500 miles, and I haven't touched it at all, it should be getting air. Filter is clean, filter minder hasn't budged at all, so there shouldn't be any obstructions.

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Can you put a battery charger on the truck for a few hours before trying again? I know you said battery voltage is good, was that measurement at the battery or at the IDM?
Maybe put a jump start on it from a running vehicle. We know that out trucks tend to eat starters, Is the starter cable clean and tight at the starter? Is the starter spinning the engine faster than 100 RPM? Is the tach bouncing when trying to start? Just another thought, is the Cam position sensor good?
Starter was replaced last summer. And I checked voltage with AE while cranking. I also logged engine RPM as it was cranking, and it was almost 200 RPM's the whole time. So it's definitely getting juice, and the starter is spinning very strong.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Try unplugging the PCM for a half a minute or so.....

I have run into STUPID problems when the KAM (keep alive memory) gets corrupt by some weird reason. When you take chips and programs out of and back into the truck as often as I do........you see some unconventional things happen. It happened to my truck again about a week ago.

It's worth the 2 minutes to try it.
Interesting. So unplugging the PCM is the way to clear it? Not hit the clear codes button on AE or similar, or just unhook the batteries?

Subscribing to see it this works. It does seem like something electrical is jut not waking up since all the other parameters are in place and he's getting smoke while cranking.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pocket
Nope, I don't have a no start tune loaded on the chip. Never have. I also pulled the chip out and tried cranking. And I had the chip out when I datalogged with AE while cranking.
I kinda figured that you would have thought of that one already.

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off topic: I should have multi-quoted these post, would have saved me some time posting
Yes you should have but to make you feel better bro I did the same thing.

Originally Posted by F350-6
Interesting. So unplugging the PCM is the way to clear it? Not hit the clear codes button on AE or similar, or just unhook the batteries?

Subscribing to see it this works. It does seem like something electrical is jut not waking up since all the other parameters are in place and he's getting smoke while cranking.
I agree Chris. I would try to disconnect the batteries for a while to see if it does reset itself.
 
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