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Old 09-11-2010, 03:21 PM
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carb question....

ok so here it is the *** i baught the truck off of took the 4bbl off and dropped on a 2 barrel 750 cfm it still has the 4bbl intake and im wanting to put a 4bbl back on it would i be increasing gas mileage switching to a 550 cfm 4bbl from a 750 cfm 3 barrel (yes i know that all a 4bbl does is increase top end power and some midrange as well as increase fuel and air flow) !!! no i did not know he switched it till i got it home and was wondering why i was only getting 11mpg!!!
 
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I pretty much had the same kind of problem. I bought my 72 stepside a few months back, somebody had put in a 351w with a 2 barrel. I pulled the carb to go through and clean it onlly to find an adapter plate and a 4 barrel intake underneath. I was wondering why I was have trouble at higher rpms, and wouldn't accelerate past 55 very well. I just put a 600 holley on the other day, need to find my vacuum leak and hook up the choke. I haven't driven enough to see how the gas mileage is, but I do know that my mid range and upper HP seem to be alot stronger, and I can spin the tires at 1/2 throttle now. Got up to 80mph no problem. I was getting about 8mpg with the 2 barrel, will let you know how the 4 barrel works out.
 
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Old 09-11-2010, 11:00 PM
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I haven't seen WHAT engine is in question... A 600 CFM is big enough for a 390 FE. Only bigger if rou're pulling, racing or do a lot of high RPM stuff. I'd "tweek" the 600 CFM PRIMARIES for economy, "delay" the secondaries for opening at a higher RPM. <<Daily driving and cruising on primaries / set the secondaries to open at about 60-65 MPH. It takes a bit of 'finess', but can be done. Mash the go-pedal at any time and get FULL POWER. < then watch the gas gauge move]
 
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Old 09-11-2010, 11:23 PM
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Lol, I couldn't believe how quickly my gas gauge hit E with just a 2 barrel on it, I think it will be a bit better with the 4. I had the 2 barrel running as rich as I could so I could get a bit more go at higher rpms, the engine was leaning out past 2700rpms.
 
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Old 09-12-2010, 01:54 AM
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Not sure if it was the carb - or how it was adjusted (tuned). "More power" and "economy" are at different ends of the scale. That is why I have a dash-mounted manifold (vacuum) gauge. And a tach - and soon, a fuel pressure gauge dash-mounted. I like to see just what the engine is doing. IF it's tuned right, you can feel the secondaries kick in at freeway speed. ( I've got a flore-speed / NO slush-box to kick down)
 
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:13 AM
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BM, 11 mpg is decent for one of these old trucks, you might tweak up a couple more but you will hit the wall soon. A 550 cfm 4 barrel should be enough to run the old truck. Stay from a 750, you will be dumping raw gas on the road from the tail pipes.

Potto, You need some tuning on your whole setup, I think fire & gas are both off. I run a 390 CFM 4 barrel on my truck and ran mine up to about 5200 rpms in 2nd 2 weeks ago. I wanted to see how many Rs it was turning when it hit 100mph. GOD the band was playing sweet music, the notes were awesome.



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well the 4bbl really helped, for the time being i found a 400 2bbl and took the jets out i was getting around 16 mpg but the 2bbl had to go and fast the truck ran like i had my hands around its neck choking it so shes got a 600 edelbrock with an edelbrock performer intake on her with street jets just installed the compcams 270/290 extreme street/strip cam, shift kit torque converter and headman headers to thrush turbos 2 1/2 inch all the way back and i switched to an electric fan lemme tell ya WHOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!! lol pushing a nice 430hp and a decent 17-18 mph ....unless i play.... then its about 10, but it was all worth the 1300 bucks for everything, ended up sideways when i mashed it at 60 on the interstate
 
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Originally Posted by blackmajikf100
well the 4bbl really helped, for the time being i found a 400 2bbl and took the jets out i was getting around 16 mpg but the 2bbl had to go and fast the truck ran like i had my hands around its neck choking it so shes got a 600 edelbrock with an edelbrock performer intake on her with street jets just installed the compcams 270/290 extreme street/strip cam, shift kit torque converter and headman headers to thrush turbos 2 1/2 inch all the way back and i switched to an electric fan lemme tell ya WHOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!! lol pushing a nice 430hp and a decent 17-18 mph ....unless i play.... then its about 10, but it was all worth the 1300 bucks for everything, ended up sideways when i mashed it at 60 on the interstate
Sorry bub, your speedo is off, no 17-18 out of these ol trucks with out overdrive.





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shes got o/d not sure what the trans is out of but i know its not original to the motor but i didnt have the tank i thought i did i got the 18.5 so my mpg was off im getting 13-15mpg 11-12 playing
 
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Yeah, I know I need some adjustment, and I have a vacuum leak, and for some reason it needs choked for a minute when starting, probably because of the vacuum leak lol. With the 2 barrel I could just start and drive. I advanced the timing a little and got a tad more power, but after the motor is warm restarting kinda sucks.
 
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