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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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Power steering ID

My 65 f100 cust cab has power steering and I would like to replace the hose going from the reservoir to the steering box. How can I tell 1. If my truck is a factory p/s truck. And 2. If not, how can i tell if it's a bendix unit or Saginaw unit?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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Mine has a B on the pump which makes me think it's a bendix. Though I could be wrong..
 
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bagpype
Mine has a B on the pump which makes me think it's a bendix. Though I could be wrong..
B marked on the P/S pump does not refer to Bendix.

The pump is a Ford unit. The P/S pump seal kit is the same: 1966/77 F100/350 & 1965/77 Passenger Cars.

There was no P/S available on 1965's, neither factory nor dealer installed.

If you do have a 1965, the P/S was swapped in by a previous owner. To verify the year, post the last six numbers of the VIN.

1966 was the first year for factory installed P/S.

Which P/S hose are you asking about? There are two from the pump to the gearbox: Pressure & Return.

The pressure hose has fittings on both ends. The return hose has a fitting on the gearbox end, the pump end is just rubber, clamps to a nipple on the P/S pumps reservoir.

If the reservoir is steel: 1966/77. If the reservoir is plastic: 1978 and later. If the reservoir bolts atop the P/S pump, you have an Eaton P/S pump from a 1953/64 car or 1958/64 truck.

Because there were sooo many different P/S hoses, Ford stamped an ID number on the swagged end of the fitting where it connects to the rubber portion of the hose.

You have to look close, the ID number can be hard to read, and if the hose has been replaced by one from a parts store, there will be no ID number stamped on it.

If you find the ID number, post what it is. I'll give you the Ford part number and tell you what it's from.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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Thanks ND, I can always count on you!

The reservoir is indeed metal. My whole vin # is: F10DL603981. Please tell me if it's not a 65.

And the hoses have been cut, clamped, and pieced together so if these guys are original hoses, or even ford hoses fo that matter, I'd be surprised.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bagpype
Thanks ND, I can always count on you!

The reservoir is indeed metal. My whole vin # is: F10DL603981. Please tell me if it's not a 65.

And the hoses have been cut, clamped, and pieced together so if these guys are original hoses, or even ford hoses fo that matter, I'd be surprised.
F10 = F100 2WD / D = 352 2V / L = Michigan Truck Assembly Plant / 603981 = 1965, assembled October 1964.

Look at you P/S gearbox, how many openings does it have?

Bendix has four: right/left/top/bottom, Ford has three: top/bottom/front-where the input shaft is that connects to the steering column.

If only three, look on the top cover, this is where Ford installed the ID tag...it's prolly missing, but the cover has an ID number on it...like C6AR-3580-A.

Look on the housing itself, see if you can find its ID number.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Pardon my ignorance but my box has 5 screws on the box, 1 on each corner and 1 in the middle of it. By openings do you mean passages that go into and out of the pump or the amount of screws on the box??
 
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Pardon my ignorance but my box has 5 screws on the box, 1 on each corner and 1 in the middle of it. By openings do you mean passages that go into and out of the pump or the amount of screws on the box??
3 (Ford) / 4 (Bendix) openings in the gearbox. The huge Bendix box is sorta shaped like this: + has openings at each point.

The parts catalog pic does not clearly show the number of mounting bolt holes the Bendix has. I can see three, there may be more. The Ford gearbox has three.

The P/S pump looks exactly the same (has a steel reservoir): 1965/77 Passenger Cars (except w/Hydro-Boost) / 1966/77 F100/250's & 1969/77 F350's / 1972/77 Bronco's.

The differences in the pumps are internal.

IF the P/S pumps reservoir is plastic, it's from a 1978 and later F100/350, Bronco, Passenger Car.

When Ford changed the P/S pump in 1978, they also changed the mounting brackets and P/S hoses. If you do have a 1978 and later pump, it's most likely Ford P/S.

Take some pictures and either post them, or email them to me. Click on my user name for email access.
 
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heres some pics of the p/s pump.

 
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Originally Posted by bagpype
heres some pics of the p/s pump.

The P/S pump looks the same thru 1977.

I can see just enough of the P/S gearbox: 4 bolt sector shaft cover = Bendix P/S.

Ford P/S: The sector shaft cover has 2 bolts.
 
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Bendix. Got it. Thank you so much for your help. Now I can start to try and find a hose!
 
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Originally Posted by bagpype
Bendix. Got it. Thank you so much for your help. Now I can start to try and find a hose!
C6TZ3A713B .. P/S Return Hose-20 5/8" long / Obsolete

Fits: 1966/69 F100/250 352/360/390 w/Bendix P/S.

WESLEY OBSOLETE PARTS in Liberty KY has ONE = 606-787-5293.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has ONE = 800-543-4959.
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C6TZ3A719E .. P/S Pressure Hose-21 5/8" long / Obsolete

Fits: 1966 F100/250 352 w/Bendix P/S.

BOWMAN SALES & SERVICE in Bowman ND has ONE = 701-523-3257.

ANTIQUE AUTO SUPPLY in Arlington TX has ONE = 817-275-2381.
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Since I dunno what year the P/S is from (you cannot assume anything with swaps), here's another hose.

Since the pump and the gearbox are the same 1966/69, only its length is different.

C7TZ3A719J .. P/S Pressure Hose-20 5/8" long / Obsolete

Fits: 1967/69 F100/250 352/360/390 w/Bendiz P/S.

KINSEL L/M in Beaumont TX has ONE = 800-816-2894.

WESLEY OBSOLETE PARTS has ONE.

GREEN SALES CO. has TWO.
 
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