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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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exhaust recomandations

im getting an exhaust on my truck soon hopefully in an attempt for an aggressive sound and hopefully better mpg. so far ive pretty much decided on headers with true duals, two gutted cats, and two cherrybomb glasspacks exiting at the cabcorners at 45* angles. im trying to keep all of this under $500. i just have a few questions still though:

1. what about my oxygen sensor with true dual pipes?

2. which headers give better torque and mpg? shorties or long tubes?

3. in an effort to cut corners and save where i can would it be better to buy my headers and mufflers and go to an exhaust shop and have the remaining pipe bent up or to buy a universal kit? if its universal it cant be too much fabricating involved.. summit sells a kit that has headers, mufflers, and dual exit pipes for aroudn 300 but it exits in front of the rear tires and i have the dual tanks. anyone know of a universal kit?

4. what size pipe? as of right now the motors stock and for awhile it probably will be except for maybe a mild cam or what not later on so what size pipe? 2.5"?

by the way the truck is a 95 f150 4x4 AODE 5.0 supercab flareside with dual tanks if that helps any.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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Long tube will give better TQ numbers. High flowing cats would also help the beast breathe.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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i was considering the high flow cats but i think thats going to put me over my budget.
so far im looking at
flowtech headers: 160
cherrybombs: 60
that should give me about 280 more for the rest of my piping, shipping, and another cat from a junkyard to gut. if i could find high flow cats cheap enough i would go for those.

the plan is to either use two gutted cats or to rig up a way to put the cats on long enough just to get it inspected when the time comes and take them off afterwards lol

also ive been told that an exhaust system can actually hurt your mpg? but from what ive been reading from everyone on here it actually helps it? any insight on that one?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by xc4jokestomper
i was considering the high flow cats but i think thats going to put me over my budget.
so far im looking at
flowtech headers: 160
cherrybombs: 60
that should give me about 280 more for the rest of my piping, shipping, and another cat from a junkyard to gut. if i could find high flow cats cheap enough i would go for those.

the plan is to either use two gutted cats or to rig up a way to put the cats on long enough just to get it inspected when the time comes and take them off afterwards lol

also ive been told that an exhaust system can actually hurt your mpg? but from what ive been reading from everyone on here it actually helps it? any insight on that one?
Look for a healthy fine for not having cats...$2500 or more.

Exhaust systems hurting your MPG? As opposed to not having one? Perhaps I don't understand what you're trying to convey here.

Having the WRONG exhaust on your engine can hurt the MPGs. Having NO exhaust will hurt your exhaust valves.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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inspections around here dont consist of much. they usually dont look underneath anyway and i just want them to be there in case they do.

what i meant by the exhaust system is by having a performance exhaust system as opposed to the stock exhaust.

what would be the "right" exhaust for my truck that would still get me more torque and better mpgs?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Performance exhaust will net you decent numbers, but are you planning any other mods later down the pike? How about adding the air snorkel from a 300/460 equipped truck? it will allow better air flow and cooler air to enter the intake. A better cam and heads will give you better numbers as well.

I'd still go for the high flow cats, if you're planning on driving on the road.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 11:05 PM
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I'm no exhaust expert, so take this you what it is... my opinion. haha

If you want to go true duals, keep it to 2.25" pipe, maybe even 2.00" if you are going w/o cats and using glasspacks. Also, if I were you, I wasn't planning in any motor work I would, and I am looking to keep cost down, I would keep the stock manifolds in place, chop the exhaust after the first cat(should be 3" or close to it at that point) run pipe down to a single 3" glasspack(maybe 12-18" long) and then route the tips out behind the rear tires or under the bumper. Drone gets old in a hurry and having the exhaust exit at the cab will probably encourage it. Have a shop weld in an O2 senor bung if you are OBDII(shouldn't be.) Either delete the smog pump plumbing or have it dump into the pipe if you thing you might need it later.

Will you get the gains of LT's? No, but at the same time you will feel a pretty good increase in power w/o too much $$$, but you are going to have to keep your foot out of it inorder to see any increase in MPG. It should also still be legal at point.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by xc4jokestomper
so far im looking at
flowtech headers: 160
cherrybombs: 60
Flowtech headers suck get Pacesetter's instead.

Originally Posted by xc4jokestomper
also ive been told that an exhaust system can actually hurt your mpg?
If it does it's only because after the system is installed people tend to drive around with their foot planted on the floorboard all the time just so you can hear "that sound".
 
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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If true duals are what your looking for there is a great kit from hooker(blackjack) and dynomax (walker) that are around 150 from summit. But they exit the same side and looks completely stock. Easy to install. LMC also has some.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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Performance exhaust will net you decent numbers, but are you planning any other mods later down the pike? How about adding the air snorkel from a 300/460 equipped truck? it will allow better air flow and cooler air to enter the intake. A better cam and heads will give you better numbers as well.
later down the road yes. for now probably not. either the air snorkel or an open element. i havent decided yet.

I'm no exhaust expert, so take this you what it is... my opinion. haha

If you want to go true duals, keep it to 2.25" pipe, maybe even 2.00" if you are going w/o cats and using glasspacks. .
i would prefer true duals.

Also, if I were you, I wasn't planning in any motor work I would, and I am looking to keep cost down, I would keep the stock manifolds in place, chop the exhaust after the first cat(should be 3" or close to it at that point) run pipe down to a single 3" glasspack(maybe 12-18" long) and then route the tips out behind the rear tires or under the bumper. Drone gets old in a hurry and having the exhaust exit at the cab will probably encourage it. Have a shop weld in an O2 senor bung if you are OBDII(shouldn't be.) Either delete the smog pump plumbing or have it dump into the pipe if you thing you might need it later.
i dont understand what kind of setup your describing here? why woul di need the o2 sensor bung welded in with this one? ill consider this idea maybe but was really wanting true duals.

If true duals are what your looking for there is a great kit from hooker(blackjack) and dynomax (walker) that are around 150 from summit. But they exit the same side and looks completely stock. Easy to install. LMC also has some.
ive seen some of these. they dont give much inof and i would need something that is straight forward. flowmaster has a cat back system that exits right where i want it for like 400. ill look at these systems though.


any other recomendations for a daily driver? really looking for a true dual setup..
 
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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ok so i got to looking at another thread over on fullsizebronco.com about exhast systems and i got another idea similar to the one listed above from 94mustang. what about long tube headers to a 3" single to a cat to a si/do muffler with dual 2.5" tail pipes out behind the rear wheels?

with this setup would an exhaust shop be able to fix me a custom y pipe with an o2 port on it?

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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Flowtech headers suck get Pacesetter's instead.
My only gripe with the flowtech headers is that the collectors damn near butt up against the subframe. Your pipes will have to either run under or over the subframe, and either way you'll have a pretty sharp turn right off the collector. My exhaust shop ran the pipe under the subframe and I think it looks stupid.

Other than that I think they're good for a stock motor because the primaries and collectors are kept to a modest size.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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If you hack it off after the first cat then It'll already have an O2 sensor welded in......this last exhaust setup is the way I would go...now...I finally grew out of that loud pipes stage and getting ready to redo my exhaust AGAIN. Yes, a good shop can fab up a custom wye pipe for ya. There is no subframe on these trucks.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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If you hack it off after the first cat then It'll already have an O2 sensor welded in......this last exhaust setup is the way I would go...now...I finally grew out of that loud pipes stage and getting ready to redo my exhaust AGAIN. Yes, a good shop can fab up a custom wye pipe for ya. There is no subframe on these trucks.
which one are you referring too? the one i just mentioned? also if i hack it off after the first cat i wont be able to go with long tube headers will i?
 
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No, sorry got conflunkered in my mind.....You'll have to throw an H-pipe in there for the O2 to sit in...it tends to do it's job better when it's reading BOTH sides of the engine....not just one....clear as mud?
 
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