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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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VC-9 Flush Question

Reading the rad flush procedure in the tech folder it says to drain system then add 2 bottles of VC-9 and top off with Distilled water, then follow the procedure as with or without thermostat.

So without the thermostat it says:

If thermostat is removed just idle for 5 minutes gently varying idle rpm’s between 750 and 1500 or turn High Idle Mod on.

It then says to repeat the flushing sequence. So question is, only 5 minutes with the VC-9 in it without a t-stat in???
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Let the vehicle run about 1 hour or take it on a drive after you add the VC-9. Than draining and refilling with distilled water until water comes out clean..After it all comes out clean refill with 31/2 gal on Motorcraft Coolant Premium Gold VC7-B or Zerex GO-5 Coolant. Than top off with distilled water until it reads on the lower level line in the dagass bottle. Keep checking for the next couple of weeks and add distilled water as needed. You will have a 50/50 mix when finished. You can also check out cheezit writeup on the flush.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...tructions.html
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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This is what I did. It made sense to me.

I drained some coolant out and put in the VC-9, without removing the thermostat. It was my understanding from something I read somewhere that flushing with VC-9 at temperature was best and this can't be achieved without the thermostat. I then drove the truck for about an hour at highway speed, thus ensuring I ran at temperature with the thermostat opening for a good, thorough flush.

Then I let it cool a bit, removed the thermostat, put it all back together, and flushed 5 or 6 times with distilled water.

Put the thermostat back in (I put a new one in, because mine wasn't holding temp as well as it should), drained it as well as possible, put in 3.5 gallons of coolant and topped it off with distilled water.

I changed my coolant filter AFTER the flush, because I figured if I was flushing around gunk I didn't want it in a new filter.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Heckler
Reading the rad flush procedure in the tech folder it says to drain system then add 2 bottles of VC-9 and top off with Distilled water, then follow the procedure as with or without thermostat.

So without the thermostat it says:

If thermostat is removed just idle for 5 minutes gently varying idle rpm’s between 750 and 1500 or turn High Idle Mod on.

It then says to repeat the flushing sequence. So question is, only 5 minutes with the VC-9 in it without a t-stat in???
You are mixing up the instructions, and confusing the term "flush". When you are circulating the VC-9, it needs to be driven for 1 hour. When you are just circulating water (without t-stat), it is 5 minutes in your driveway.

There is a difference of opinion around here on whether to remove the t-stat before using the VC-9. I say it should be removed, because I know it does not fully open until 219°F. It does not even start to open until 195°. I would rather have full circulation through the engine, even if it is at a somewhat reduced temp. And by the way, the workshop manual agrees with me. But whatever, I guess it will work either way.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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When i did mine my t-stat was all together t-stat and housing,i could not figure out how they came apart.But i did put in a new one with some great ELC coolant
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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When i did mine my t-stat was all together t-stat and housing,i could not figure out how they came apart.But i did put in a new one with some great ELC coolant

Where did you purchase the ROTELLA ELC COOLANT. I'm up in Inverness,Fl can't find it anywhere!!! Also what's is going $$ for ??..Thanks
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Ok got it, Do any of you remove the block plugs? the left seems easy but you have to remove the starter for the right????
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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Ok got it, Do any of you remove the block plugs? the left seems easy but you have to remove the starter for the right????
I did not remove either one. Didn't want to take a shower in the draining coolant. But it is recommended by Ford to remove just the driver side plug. I haven't read anyone who thinks it is worth dropping the starter to remove the passenger side plug.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Ok thanks! Anyone by chance have the part number for the T-Stat O-Ring?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Ok thanks! Anyone by chance have the part number for the T-Stat O-Ring?
3C3Z-8255-AA

But my advice is to replace the thermostat. It comes with the housing and new O-ring.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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But my advice is to replace the thermostat. It comes with the housing and new O-ring.

Is a whole thermostat expensive?? I only have 34k on my truck... and THANKS for all your help!
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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I think the list price is less than $40. But you are probably right, and don't need one if you only have so few miles. Which means you probably don't need an O-ring either. It is unlikely that you would damage it.

Even though you have low miles, that spring has been compressed for 6 years. I would get a new one, but that's just me.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Great thanks... I may need one by the time I find some Coolant! I have been looking all day for some ELC and the closest (Fleetrite ELC) is an hour away.. I guess I know where im going while the VC-9 in in the system...

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I think the list price is less than $40. But you are probably right, and don't need one if you only have so few miles. Which means you probably don't need an O-ring either. It is unlikely that you would damage it.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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Can't get any simpler than this. Even I understand them!

1. Drain coolant
2. Add 2 cans of VC-9 and top off with distilled water.
3. Drive 20 to 30 miles, preferably at highway speeds.
4. Drain radiator at petcock first, then pull lower hose. Then remove block plug on driver side. Not necesary to do passenger side.
5. Remove t-stat. To do this, remove air cleaner. Then 2 nuts on t-stat housing. Pry press. sensor bracket off of studs. Tight fit but it will move. Remove 2 more nuts and pull t-stat and housing from studs.
6. Remove t-stat and put housing back on. Re-assemble everything and fill with distilled water.
7. Run at 1200 rpm's for 3 to 5 minutes and drain as described in step 4.
8. Repeat 4 to 5 times or untill water coming at is as clear as water going in.
9. Install t-stat using new O ring. I used vaseline to hold the O ring in place.
10. After everything is re-assembled fill with a 50/50 mix of Ford premium gold or Zerex GO-5.
11. Start engine and check for leaks. This is a lot easier and quicker than it sounds. If you don't remove t-stat then you have to run truck between each flush till t-stat fully opens and then let cool down to work on it.

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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Where did you purchase the ROTELLA ELC COOLANT. I'm up in Inverness,Fl can't find it anywhere!!! Also what's is going $$ for ??..Thanks



Well the company i drive for this what we use in our trucks,i got mine for free.Here are a some web sites http://www.pricethattool.com/product...nzoil-Products. and here is another - Rotella home page Hope this helps
 
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