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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Dennis Carpenter cab to frame mounting kit

Got the kit today, but have questions about the parts. If any of you have received the kit C7TZ-5400-S from Dennis Carpenter, can you help me out? The bushings were marked with the serial number that coincides with the instructions, but the all the numbers on the bushings were not clearly marked. The washers were all different sizes, and I only received 2 nuts instead of 4. Here are my questions...

1) There were 4 different washer sizes. The smallest one's were easy to figure out where they go, but the other 3 I am unsure of.
a) 2 large washers
b) 2 a little smaller than A above
c) 4 a little smaller than B above

2) Also, There were 2 sizes of sleeves. I assume one size goes on the front and the other on the back, but which is which? Cannot tell from the instructions.

3) I only received 2 nuts. Shouldn't there be 4?

4) One last thing on the bushings themselves. I can easily differentiate between the front and back top bushings as they are different shapes, but want to verify on the front and rear bottom bushings. Do the smaller one's go on the front or the back.

Hey Bill, my kit did not come with those special top hat looking washers? I wonder if they have discontinued using those in their kits? Do you happen to know?

Thank you in advance,
Steven
 
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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Steven,

I just purchased those from Dennis Carpenter about a month ago. I was a little disappointed to see that they are not an exact replacement. The originals had the special washer/sleeve/bushings that were pressed together. I suppose that would have been harder to make and install so they went with just regular (large) washers and separate sleeve pieces.

They short-changed me two nuts as well. They are the oval locking type so they are harder to find. I just went with a regular nut and lock washer.

The largest rubber pucks go on top of the frame. Then the largest washers (A) go on top of the pucks. The smallest washer (C) would end up inside the cab below the bolt head. The medium washers (B) go on the bottom of the other puck that goes below the frame. Another small washer (C) between (B) and the bottom nut.

Out of the four largest rubber pucks the largest go in the rear of the cab.

I think all of my sleeves were the same size.

I'm not sure if that all made sense or helped.

Here is a few pics of mine. I don't have the cab installed yet so they are just sitting in the frame.









I can take some close-ups when I get home tonight if needed.

Cheers!
 
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jackslater
Steven,

I just purchased those from Dennis Carpenter about a month ago. I was a little disappointed to see that they are not an exact replacement. The originals had the special washer/sleeve/bushings that were pressed together. I suppose that would have been harder to make and install so they went with just regular (large) washers and separate sleeve pieces.

They short-changed me two nuts as well. They are the oval locking type so they are harder to find. I just went with a regular nut and lock washer.

The largest rubber pucks go on top of the frame. Then the largest washers (A) go on top of the pucks. The smallest washer (C) would end up inside the cab below the bolt head. The medium washers (B) go on the bottom of the other puck that goes below the frame. Another small washer (C) between (B) and the bottom nut.

Out of the four largest rubber pucks the largest go in the rear of the cab.

I think all of my sleeves were the same size.

I'm not sure if that all made sense or helped.

Here is a few pics of mine. I don't have the cab installed yet so they are just sitting in the frame.









I can take some close-ups when I get home tonight if needed.

Cheers!
Thank you for the response Jack. The instructions that came with them leave a lot to be desired, and the parts definitely need to be labeled better.

Hey Bill, can you give me some feedback on this kit you recommended to me from DC?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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Jack, awesome looking frame... Wish I could do a frame off restoration. Also looks like you have a great working area in your garage. My F100 is parked in the driveway, as my wife's pathfinder takes preference. Is that PRO-15 you have on the frame?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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Thanks Steven.

Did you get your cab mounts sorted out? Are you just replacing the mounts or do you have rotted sheet metal in the area too?

Looking back on this thread I can see I got a little carried away with the pictures - I should have at least posted smaller pics - next time.

The frame was blasted and powder coated by Portland Powder Coaters. They did a good job and they say I could hit it with a hammer and it won't chip! It wasn't that expensive and was way easier than having to deal with cleaning, priming, and painting myself.

The garage was last years project.

Hey, at least your wife has vehicle in the garage (rather than storage)!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jackslater
Thanks Steven.

Did you get your cab mounts sorted out? Are you just replacing the mounts or do you have rotted sheet metal in the area too?

Looking back on this thread I can see I got a little carried away with the pictures - I should have at least posted smaller pics - next time.

The frame was blasted and powder coated by Portland Powder Coaters. They did a good job and they say I could hit it with a hammer and it won't chip! It wasn't that expensive and was way easier than having to deal with cleaning, priming, and painting myself.

The garage was last years project.

Hey, at least your wife has vehicle in the garage (rather than storage)!
Blasting and powder coating would be awesome but, for now, is not in the budget. Got some rust encapsulator from Eastwood.com that is supposed to be as good if not better than POR-15. Have yet to apply, but will update when I do. Supposedly this stuff is hammer resistant...
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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I used the same kit from D.C. and was disapointed with it and the instruction sheet was very poor I compeared the old cab mounts to the new ones along with the instruction sheet and got it done.I had 4 nuts. But thought the bolts are to long for the core support I bought new bolts shorters them the ones in the kit
 
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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DC MOUNTS

I am currently doing a frame off job myself. My question is has anyone purchased the cab mounts from LMC. I am shopping for them now and so I'm wondering if LMC would be less of a hassel. By the way that frame does look good. I did mine with the POR-15 two coats and it's strong and shinny, but not Hammer proof.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by THAT.GUY
I am currently doing a frame off job myself. My question is has anyone purchased the cab mounts from LMC. I am shopping for them now and so I'm wondering if LMC would be less of a hassel. By the way that frame does look good. I did mine with the POR-15 two coats and it's strong and shinny, but not Hammer proof.
If I had my preference, I would have stuck with the poly bushings from Prothane. Only bad thing was they come with no mounting hardware... WTF!!! Honestly, I would say give LMC or Mac's Antique auto parts a try. They are both, I think, about $20 cheaper and couldn't have any worse instructions than the DC kit...
 
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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LMC MOUNTS

I did purchase the coil support mounts from LMC and they are almost exactly like the stock ones. I'll probably get the cab mounts from LMC and see what happens. I'll keep y'all posted
 
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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hmmmmm very interesting indeeed as I too require new mounts. I was thinking of going with Blue Oval Truck Parts kit. Anyone have any experience with those?
 
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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has anyone got the LMC rubber cab mount kit from LMC part # 40-0126 LMC Truck Parts - Page 24 i just got it and it don't have any instructions with it can anyone help me figure out how they go?
 
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