No rant, good input.

But basically what you are suggesting is that we drop standardization and all educate ourselves on, or interpret, each individuals made up parts names and processes - and that's impossible if you want to get anything done. Experience should be used as a suppliment (not a substitute) to the basic published facts - the foundation - like icing on the cake.

This thread has gone 3 pages because people won't call parts by their correct names and THAT is what lends to the confusion - and the argument that it's a problem.

I don't care if the "Clutch Cover" covers the clutch or not - that's it's name - whether you like it or not!
And if you don't want to get on board with that then so be it. Go work and do a great job as I'm sure you do.

But when you are dealing with other people don't expect everyone else to adjust to or understand your made up names. No matter what makes sense to you, your 2 years old hands are not feet simply because they walk on them now. A hand is a hand and a foot is a foot. (That's good to remember if you ever have to go to the emergeny room and tell the doctor what hurts)

I understand how you feel, and how experience lends a certain common sense to something that the books can't provide. Books and reference materials are tools just like your screw driver or wrench. And none of them, by any means, will do every job every time. You have to use all the tools properly to get things done - books, tools, and that invaluable experience - that's the mark of a good mechanic. Funny thing is that most of those books are written by folks like you who have years of technical experience. And when they write them they find that they are written certain ways for certain reasons - reasons you may not be aware of.

I'm just suggesting that everyone doesn't have that common sense or that experience. So the terminology as assigned and published by the maker of the part - as a common frame of reference - is helpful when speaking to groups or people who may not understand your own terminology.

And for the purposes of this thread - in helping Bob with his transmission - I have to honestly believe that if you were to call the Clutch Cover the "Clutch Cover" instead of completely incorrectly calling the Flywheel Housing the "Clutch Cover" (and then trying to rationalize it with the "I'm a superior mechanic and don't need no stinkin' books to tell me anything" argument), then he could take much better advantage of your knowledge and skill - which would be a tremendous asset to him with this - to help him with his problem. And that's really why we are here, right?

 

You ain't gonna win this argument Skipper - just like the Navy or when you were flyin F-14's testing missles you had your own names for things that wasn't by the books

 

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So Bob, how's that tranny looking?

 

Hoping to have it in this tonight or sometime this weekend.

 

Dick you're a funny guy - I'm not trying to win any arguments, I'm just trying to impress some of the younger folks that there are different ways of doing these jobs and the advantages of doing things right - lacking the experience you have.

You pose an interesting example, but the truth of the matter is just the opposite. Lets look at it.

Fact of the matter is on any aircraft I ever flew on, if a mechanic ever came to a pilot to get a gripe signed off, and the mechanic was arrogant enough to tell the pilot that the part he worked on was the clutch cover instead of the flywheel housing because that's what he's been calling it for years and didn't care what the book said (or what the instrments said because he "listened to it" and it sounded right [from another thread]); and then indicated to the pilot that "he" was the mechanic and the pilot wasn't qualified to correct him based his "book knowledge orientation" as opposed to being an experienced mechanic.....

That mechanic would be fired on the spot, as he should be, and would never be certified as an aircraft mechanic again - ever.

Then the aircraft would be grounded until a certified (by the book) mechanic could inspect the repair - verbatim by the book, have it inspected by the book, by an inspector to see if the mechanic complied with the book then correctly (using the correct nomenclature and quoting the books repair procedure number used, and complied with) to certify what was repaired, before that aircraft was ever allowed to be started up again - let alone flown.

And I can't help but believe that anyone who reads this and flies, isn't very thankful that those mechanics do things "by the book!" even with the tremendous amount of knowledge they possess.

Of ocurse we all know the reason that jet mechanics do things that way is because they are all a bunch of dirtbags who can't get jobs as real automotive shop mechanics.

I guess it's a subjective argument based on each individuals experience and the definition of how to do things right. Very subjective.

As long as the people you work for trust you to do your job the way you do because of the quality of the results, then fabulous! And as long as I can take my truck to someone who has the work ethic to do the job how I think it should be done, in my (qualified) opinion, then everything is cool, right? It's the glory of Freedom! It's America!

Edit Note: PS myflat - this is just an example- not meant to reflect on you or what you said.

 

Well......o.k.

 

Some people say poe taw toe, some people say poe tay toe

FWIW, My dad was an airline mechanic for many years, and they do have a checklist that must be signed off.

 

Excellent post,Havi !!

 

Judy -Judy - Judy - You write those massive tomes full of Bs and miss-dirrection - puts me into skim mode real quick - It's about educating folks - notbearing them in 10' of cow doo, They will start to make their own words up - then both the educator and the tormentor lose - us educators feel real bad abour that

 

Bump to Top!

 

Excellent post,PennDick!

 

"Effervescing" ?!?!

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Seriously, how's the rebuild going Bob? Anxious to hear how it works when you get it together!

 

I've had a bit too much caffeine already this a.m.,but not as much as that guy.Gonna wash and wax the truck,adjust the clutch,and install self adjusting brake hardware.Bob,hope it all comes together for you with minimal expense and hassle.

Super!!

 

He's had more than caffeine!!