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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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Thumbs down The worst feeling...

A couple months back i posted about my rusty brake lines. I was worried that they were getting to the point where they needed to be replaced. I gathered a bunch of advice from all you guys here and bought all the required tools and parts...

but i never did the repair. I played with the flare tool a bit but couldn't get a good crimp, and life got kinda hectic (moved to NC, traveled all over Europe on business, getting married next weekend etc...) so i just kept putting it off.

Well, today it ruptured when i was pulling into a parking space. That is a terrible feeling when the pedal goes to the floor and you are not stopping. I managed to get it into neutral and stop before rear-ending a range rover. I was lucky i was going slow and not barreling down the road at 50mph towards a red light.

Moral of the story is, don't procrastinate when it comes to safety gear. I am ashamed that i put everyone else on the road at risk. I knew better.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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Yup, been there, done that. In my old 1956 F-100 I drove in high school. I pulled out of the school one afternnon and the brakes felt funny, so I headed to the tire shop my Dad always told me to go to if the cars needed anything. I downshifted to second, made a right turn into the parking lot and stepped on th e brakes....and nothing happened. Luck was with me as there was a handy pile of used tires to run into. The mechanics came out and I jumped out of the truck and said. "I think my brakes need work."
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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Well, I'm gald to hear that no one got hurt. I think we are all guilty of putting something off here and there. Luckely for you it turned out o.k. I don't know how well the emergency brake would stop a big truck like an F250 that's going 50 miles an hour. Luck was on your side for sure on this one.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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glad you are alright.
My truck is a 99 and my brake lines do not look all that bad for living in upstate NY.
the flaring tool is a little intimidating but the last 3 yrs I have done all my own brake work. Not yet on this truck but My 96 and the tarus stationwagon that I just sold. Now I am a not so proud owner of a dodge durango(It's what the wife wanted)Shes happy so that makes everybody happy
Again glad you did not get in any accidents
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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thanks guys, this is totally not my style... i am usually over cautious...

It was towed to the "AAA car care center"... i guess my punishment will be having to pay whatever they say to get it fixed. If i had just taken care of this before, i could have researched a good shop and gotten quotes etc.

anyway, here is a pic of the "before". Looking at it now, i can't believe i put off replacing them... it looks like the only thing keeping brake fluid in there was a hope and a dream... I am going to ask the mechanics to throw the old line in the back of the truck so i can examine the rupture. If your brake lines look like this, it is time to replace them:





EDIT: Notice the gas line right below the brake line... no rust... why would one steel line have no rust and the immediately adjacent line look like new?
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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OH, and i bought the truck up in Massachusetts about a year ago, that is why it has all that cancer...
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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Hmmmm. You know I keep hearing that brake fluid absorbs water over time, so that it needs to be changed occasionally just for the hell of it. I wonder if that might account for the difference....?
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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Hmmmm. You know I keep hearing that brake fluid absorbs water over time, so that it needs to be changed occasionally just for the hell of it. I wonder if that might account for the difference....?
this is true, brake fluid is hygroscopic, but why would this make the outside of the lines rust?
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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The fuel line is probably stainless steel.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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This is the long line going along the frame rail to the rear. It starts at a fitting below the front of the drivers side door. Between that fitting and the ABS module, the lines are covered with some kind of plastic or paint of some sort. No rust at all. Why wouldn't they do that on all the lines?
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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I thought the brake lines would be stainless. So that is a surprise to me. Any chance that it is not the original line? Seems like a no-brainer to me that something as critical as brakes should be stainless. I've never lived where salt was an issue, so I have little experience with that. Thankfully.

Sure glad you got her stopped safely.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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I'm very surprised that there is no sacrificial anode on those lines.

sure it would be one more thing to maintain, but for a very simple addition it would practically eliminate corrosion of important parts.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bpounds
I've never lived where salt was an issue, so I have little experience with that. Thankfully.
You live a blessed life.

I have no way of knowing if these are the original lines... but i have no reason to suspect they are not.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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I'm very surprised that there is no sacrificial anode on those lines.

sure it would be one more thing to maintain, but for a very simple addition it would practically eliminate corrosion of important parts.

I thought this only worked in the presence of an electrolyte... like seawater?
 
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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or salt on the roadways... if the vehicle is rusting, a more active material can protect it. ...the trick is using humid air to close the circuit.

It's the same reason that vehicles on the coast rust through without fail, but you can find abandoned vehicles in New Mexico that haven't been touched in decades that don't have a touch of rust on them...
 
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