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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Tire balance problem

My Wheels have a smoth out side lip. No place to place weights. The inside is a normal lip but the Tire shop uses the sickon weights in the center with less than acceptable results.

Any ideas? I'm thinkin of trying an old bubble balancer on the inside rim and then having them use the stickons.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by beartracks
My Wheels have a smoth out side lip. No place to place weights. The inside is a normal lip but the Tire shop uses the sickon weights in the center with less than acceptable results.

Any ideas? I'm thinkin of trying an old bubble balancer on the inside rim and then having them use the stickons.
Have you considered going with beads? You may want to check out Tire Balancing Products (Innovative balancing.com) for the general theory, how much you need and product.

But there is a less expensive way that works as well - head down to Sports Authority and get yourself a couple of jugs of the 6mm AirSoft pellets and use those. I have run both in my Jeeps (YJ and a KJ) and will move to these when it is time to put new tires on my truck. If you do not want to break the bead to install them you will have to go with the ceramic ones from innovative - they can be installed through the valve stem. It is slow but will work, but if you can break the bead for the install then the AirSoft will work.
 

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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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I have used the heavyweight plastic bbs with great results. A can is about two pounds, half a can in each tire works great on 31s.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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Hmmm, very interesting. I'm running 15" 265 and 235 so they aren't that big but highway driving is my main consideration. Aren't thee any drawbacks?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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If they can't get it balanced, you could have a defective tire or bent wheel. If something is out of true they can only balance it for one speed and at other speeds you'll feel a vibration.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 06:10 AM
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Hmmm, very interesting. I'm running 15" 265 and 235 so they aren't that big but highway driving is my main consideration. Aren't thee any drawbacks?
I run them in 31s on my Jeep Liberty and that runs highways all the time, as well as in my Jeep Wrangler with 35s which spends most of its time on the trails but is street legal and has no problems running highway speeds with them. They will be going into the 250 and Excursion the next time I break the beads.

The only drawbacks I have found are the strange noise the tires will make as you roll up to a stop light or if you are going less than 5 miles an hour or so as the pellets "slosh" around in the tire, the ceramic beads are much quiter than the airsoft pellets - oh and the strange looks you get from the guys at the tire store when you tell them you want to put them in your tires and why.
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The really nice thing about this is if you do off road the vehicle and for instance take a chunk out of your tire in the rocks or something your balancing job is not lost - this approach will automatically adjust and dynamically balance the tire as it wears.
 
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The ride is really smooth, it even helps with road force variation, but the down side is that you don't get a whole lot of warning if there is a problem with a tire so actual tire inspections should be done more often. Since they cancel out nearly any tire vibration, they can cover a separating tire until it's about ready to blow.
 
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