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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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03 Expedition Strut Change

Just wondering what the typical experience has been with the shock change. I had planned on doing Bilsteins, and a neighbor of mine who works at a Chevy dealership was going to swap them into the existing coils for me. Another friend whose family owns a dealership (formerly Lincoln, now Chrysler) says they always suggest doing all the components when they do coil over shocks. He says they wind up with noises and broken springs if they don't do everything. The Bilsteins are around $360, the neighbor route will cost a case of beer. The dealer option would be $380 for labor and if I chose to replace all parts with Ford parts it would be another $650 on top of the shocks and labor. I'm aware of the Monroe drop in solution that comes with the entire assembly for $180 each, but I'm not a fan of the Sensitrac shocks.
I'm in favor of doing the shocks and a case of beer, but don't want to do it half *** and have to re do it. I like doing it right and doing it once. Anyone care to weigh in on my options?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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The "do it all" route the dealer wants to take is not a bad idea but, being the cheapskate that I am I would opt for just the Bildsteins and replace the insulators on the springs. I don't know how the '03 struts look but if they are like those on a T-Bird it should be an easy job. If you don't have noises now you shouldn't have any upon completion.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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I'm selectively cheap, and every part of my cheapness wants to do just the shocks. Good suggestion on the isolators.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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What year did Expeditions switch from shocks and springs to struts?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Sorry. Shocks. That has helped tremendously.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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And pretty much shut down any responses. Thanks Pal.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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I don't follow the conversation of this thread...Is help still needed?
 
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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The OP made a mistake in his question. Macpherson Struts are not used on these trucks.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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I did make a mistake, and got jumped on. Rather than actually help, alloro, as is often the case with him, felt correction was more in order than help. Normally when he shows up with that attitude anyone willing to discuss or chime in stays away.

I'd appreciate the help, yes.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by alwaysfords41
I did make a mistake, and got jumped on. Rather than actually help, alloro, as is often the case with him, felt correction was more in order than help. Normally when he shows up with that attitude anyone willing to discuss or chime in stays away.

I'd appreciate the help, yes.
I don't believe you will have noises from the springs if they are not disturbed while doing the job. If the springs are removed a close inspection of the insulators would be required and if they are worn through they will squeak. The insulators are fairly inexpensive by themselves.
Note; I have changed the coil springs on many cars and trucks over the years but not on a Navigator or Expedition as both of mine are torsion bar equipped.

I ain't skeered.
 
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Originally Posted by alwaysfords41
I did make a mistake, and got jumped on.
Oh right, so you screw up and it's my fault?

Have you stopped to consider the reason you didn't get an abundant supply of responses to your inquiry is because no one could chime in and tell you their experiences with replacing struts on an Expedition. Why? Because Expeditions don't have struts, they have springs and shocks. So try and imagine how many people passed over your post because they had no idea if you were talking about shocks or something else!!

If I had truly "jumped" on you I would've said something more like, "hey dumb-***, Expedition don't have struts." Instead I threw out a simple and subtle question to help nudge your question back in the right direction.

Now as far as me being helpful around here; my history speaks for itself, so you've got your terminology wrong on that count too.
 
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If you do the work yourself, you can avoid the noise, again as recommended, check the isolators. I see no reason for the springs to ever be changed out unless they've been damaged by heavy load bearing for many thousands of miles (or just always loaded with equipment in the back).

Do you tow alot? If you do I recommend the adjustable Rancho's, like the Rancho XL. If not, maybe the Monroe's. I'm preferenced to the Bilstiens myself, but I hear many people complain the ride is too stiff on the Expedition. Then again for trailering ect I switched my tires out from the 3Ply passenger car tire to a 10ply LT tire. (General Grabber HTS LT).
 
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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Alloro,
I'd say your help is more bipolar, just like your posts. You either harass or help, depending on what I don't know. Too bad becuase you are clearly knowledgeable., I believe I've thanked you in the past, but more recently just find you to be sour. Your post speaks for itself.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Moto mel and heymrdj thanks for the replies.
No towing as of late, and when I did it was a 4000lb boat a few times a year. Not an overstressed situation for the springs I wouldn't imagine. I'm partial to a stiff ride. I've never done shocks on a coil over, is it straight forward or do I need spring compressors? Any issues with the IRS? Thanks for your help.
 
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Originally Posted by alwaysfords41
Moto mel and heymrdj thanks for the replies.
No towing as of late, and when I did it was a 4000lb boat a few times a year. Not an overstressed situation for the springs I wouldn't imagine. I'm partial to a stiff ride. I've never done shocks on a coil over, is it straight forward or do I need spring compressors? Any issues with the IRS? Thanks for your help.
I'm pretty sure spring compression is necessary. I've never done it myself, but I had to have a lincoln done and also have read many others work on their suspension (as i thought about giong a Truxx level kit on mine and some other work). I would highly recommend you take it to a good dedicated suspension shop and let them do it. Again unless something is screwed ont he springs, they won't recommend replacement either. Avoid the stealership and just find a nice recommended independent shop and get a quote.
 
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