Please help! - no brakes

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Aug 11, 2010 | 04:33 PM

Byrd.Dog

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Please help! - no brakes

I've gor a 60 F250 4x4. I just had a blown seal in the master clyinder (had fluid leaking onto the floorboard under the brake pedal), so I bought a rebuild kit for it. Replaced the rubber seal that sits on the large end of the spring and the plunger(?). hooked everything back up & bled brakes, and still nothing. Pedal has resistance on it, but goes all the way to the floor every time I push it. Seems like maybe there's not a good seal inside the master cylinder? FYI - the kit also came with a new strainer-looking piece, but I re-used the origional because the new one looked a little different. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Aug 11, 2010 | 04:39 PM

whateg01

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If it's leaking you should be getting fluid on the ground or somewhere. Could be a bad hose somewhere ballooning when you press the pedal. Can you remove a line from the master cylinder and see if it forces fluid out?

I guess those are just some generic tips.

Dave

Aug 11, 2010 | 04:44 PM

Byrd.Dog

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No, not leaking anywhere, just brakes don't work. Gonna try plugging the outlet from the master cylinder to see if the pedal remains spongy.

Aug 11, 2010 | 05:09 PM

mechmagcn

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Sounds like the master cylinder is bypassing internally, you did put the seal on the piston the correct way? the lip goes toward the spring.

Aug 11, 2010 | 06:27 PM

Byrd.Dog

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Got it! Just had to bleed the brakes A LOT more. Not working great, but just as well as before the master cylinder went out. Thanks for the ideas guys.

Aug 11, 2010 | 07:14 PM

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Did you bench-bleed the master cylinder before you installed it? Not doing so will create all sorts of never-ending brake issues.

Aug 11, 2010 | 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrd.Dog

Got it! Just had to bleed the brakes A LOT more. Not working great, but just as well as before the master cylinder went out. Thanks for the ideas guys.

After I did my disk brake conversion, I got mine bled just enuff to stop me. Then I took it to the local NAPA here and had them go through the system to double check it to make sure I didn't miss anything and had them replace the rear wheel cylinders and bleed the brakes. It cost less than 70 bucks so it was worth it...