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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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2003 7.3 starting problem

This winter it was showing some cold start trouble. Below 40 degrees I had to plug her in. Just recently, however, it has become harder and harder to start. Recently, it took 6 tries to get her to fire up. Once running, it idles fine and runs well. I'll admit that this is my first diesel so I have my diesel tech friend do the main maintenance. I've regularly had the oil, fuel filter and air filter replaced. It has about 109k on it. I haven't done the injectors or the glow plugs.

My first guess as the plugs but since it is acting up in this warm weather, my tech is leaning injectors.

Any thoughts?
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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First off, welcome to the site. Check your cranking voltage, if it drops much below 11 volts, that's most likely your problem. I've got a lot more miles than that on original GP's and injectors.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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Well, one of my batteries is down to about 400CCAs right now. Would that cause a drop?
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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Welcome to FTE. How old are the batteries? Typically we talk in volts instead of CCA's. If the voltage drops too low (like when you first turn the key on and the glow plugs are energized) then the IDM won't fire the injectors.

When you finally get it started, does it idle rough or normal? If you turn the key on and then wait 90 seconds before you turn the key to start, does it start up any quicker?
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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I'll check on the voltage after I attempt to glow the plugs and when I crank the starter. I mentioned the CCAs as it was starting to turn over slower. It idles fine once started.

I've only been glowing it as long as the light remained on. I'll try longer.

Oh, and, of course, it gives a good puff of black smoke once fired, it I've had to try it several times.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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Oh, and the batteries may be the OE ones.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Still betting that's your problem, more so since you said it has been turning over slower.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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I've only been glowing it as long as the light remained on. I'll try longer.
The light on the dash has absolutely nothing to do with how long the glow plugs actually come on. The other option would be just to disconnect the glow plug relay from the battery, but counting to 90 should tell you the story.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 10:14 PM
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Waiting 90 secs worked. Do I have to do this every time or does it simply indicate the low voltage issue? I'll try to check cranking voltage tomorrow.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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Probably going to be in the cranking voltage as suggested. The reason for the 90 second wait is to allow enough time for the glow plugs to stop drawing current from the batteries to allow the magic 10.5V while cranking.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 05:12 AM
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I replaced my OEM batteries at seven years. Since yours is seven years now, it sounds like we are on the same pattern.
Time for new batteries.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Any specific battery to recommend or just one that specs out equal to OEM.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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Any specific battery to recommend or just one that specs out equal to OEM.

Find one with a good warranty. Your Ford dealer sometimes has a deal on batteries with a warranty good at any Ford dealer. Ford and most of the others require you to have the receipt handy to honor the warranty. Autozoo looks it up by your phone number.

My OEM batteries lasted a long time. My replacements only last a couple of years. NAPA was too hard to fool with on the warranty replacements. My current batteries from Autozoo (gold top) were 2 years old this month (as was my rebuilt alternator). I replaced the alternator this morning and the batteries this afternoon.

Total cost out of pocket today was the fuel to make 2 trips to the parts store. Too bad it always comes at an inconvenient time.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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I buy my vehicle batteries from Autozone. They are everywhere and have always honored their warranty. Their warranty info is on computer for quick verification.
 
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