dashdaq or AE
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dashdaq or AE
I was just wondering what you guys thought witch would be better the dashdaq with ford bundle or the auto enginuity with the ford bundle. I have an after market code reader Innova for obd 1 and obd 2 it will do some things but not like the first two. which would be the best for diagnostic I am leaning toward the dashdaq.
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If you want to do diagnostics then AE will do a critical function that the DD won't do---monitor injector performance individually. DD won't do that, or if it will I haven't found it. DD will do LOTS of stuff and it's a very very very nice piece and very easy to use, but for pure diagnostics IMHO--AE.
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I'm curious about what is the best device for doing diagnostics and monitoring functions of the engine.
I'm planning to keep my engine stock, but I'm and engineer and love to look at data. It seems like the DASHDAQ is a great device for this. Is there another manufacturer I should consider?
I'm sure there are opinions.
I'm planning to keep my engine stock, but I'm and engineer and love to look at data. It seems like the DASHDAQ is a great device for this. Is there another manufacturer I should consider?
I'm sure there are opinions.
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This is relevent to my interests.
The DD seems way to expensive for me. I think it came in around 750 bucks? I can get an entire standalone programmable ECU for most cars for that price, and this is just a display? Seems steep.
The AE sounds more like what I'm used and is cheaper. I'm comfortable with a laptop riding shotgun, since I've been doing it for years in other cars. Is there a complete list anywhere of the types of functions available for these motors? I've seen only generic lists that may or may not apply to our motors.
The DD seems way to expensive for me. I think it came in around 750 bucks? I can get an entire standalone programmable ECU for most cars for that price, and this is just a display? Seems steep.
The AE sounds more like what I'm used and is cheaper. I'm comfortable with a laptop riding shotgun, since I've been doing it for years in other cars. Is there a complete list anywhere of the types of functions available for these motors? I've seen only generic lists that may or may not apply to our motors.
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(after all, Tim gave a good technical discussion of its capabilities
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DD will do LOTS of stuff and it's a very very very nice piece and very easy to use
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This is relevent to my interests.
The DD seems way to expensive for me. I think it came in around 750 bucks? I can get an entire standalone programmable ECU for most cars for that price, and this is just a display? Seems steep.
The AE sounds more like what I'm used and is cheaper. I'm comfortable with a laptop riding shotgun, since I've been doing it for years in other cars. Is there a complete list anywhere of the types of functions available for these motors? I've seen only generic lists that may or may not apply to our motors.
The DD seems way to expensive for me. I think it came in around 750 bucks? I can get an entire standalone programmable ECU for most cars for that price, and this is just a display? Seems steep.
The AE sounds more like what I'm used and is cheaper. I'm comfortable with a laptop riding shotgun, since I've been doing it for years in other cars. Is there a complete list anywhere of the types of functions available for these motors? I've seen only generic lists that may or may not apply to our motors.
I think there are 284 parameters on the power control module alone... I wouldn't be surprised if there were over 400 total. I don't know where you could get a list though, I was really impressed with what it could do.
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The DD is a good very much a portable piece, more portable then laptop software due to it's size. If you just need something to datalog while your traveling the DD is a good piece for datalogging and monitoring PIDs. However, to do a full diag, you'll need something along the lines of AE to get that done.
As a tech nerd, I say it's good to have both, both serve a purpose, but if budget is a major concern then the AE wins hands down.
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has anyone tried the AE pocket pc or AE palm based handheld. I do like the size of the DD. I think that either one would pay for itself over time. It might be time to flip a quarter
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I understand it can clear codes and stuff like that, but I'm under the impression it can't do any actuation type stuff, as mentioned in this quote from tex:
The laptop software is again something I'm familiar with. The one I use for the Eclipse/Talon (www.ecmlink.com) lets you enable individual solenoids, injectors, ground ignition timing to set the CAS, and so on. That type of stuff is relevant to my interests, in addition to the fact that it's a kick *** datalogger and fully functional ECU programmer. And all for 500 bucks. 
I know, I'm spoiled...
The AE seems to me to be somewhere between that and the DD. No tuning abilities, but a good logger and diagnostic/troubleshooting tool. I could be way off though! I think the AE is the way I want to go at this point. It would be awesome if I could find someone in my area that would demo it for me.
However, to do a full diag, you'll need something along the lines of AE to get that done.
I know, I'm spoiled... The AE seems to me to be somewhere between that and the DD. No tuning abilities, but a good logger and diagnostic/troubleshooting tool. I could be way off though! I think the AE is the way I want to go at this point. It would be awesome if I could find someone in my area that would demo it for me.
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The AE seems to me to be somewhere between that and the DD. No tuning abilities, but a good logger and diagnostic/troubleshooting tool. I could be way off though! I think the AE is the way I want to go at this point. It would be awesome if I could find someone in my area that would demo it for me.
Now the Spartan Phalanx uses the DashDAQ as a platform and it can tune the vehicle(what I use on my 6.0), but I don't know if you are wanting to do your own tuning or if you want someone else to do your tuning. You could probably find tuning software and do it yourself though.
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It will be generic coverage only. They do not have support for the enhanced features anymore. I was originally going to use my pocket-PC for my AE software, but it wouldn't have done much for the 6.0 at all. Unless they go back to full support, it isn't going to be worth it for us diesel owners. For the gas vehicles, I think it would be.
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The two are meant for different purposes.
The DashDAQ is primarily a LINUX computer that connects to the vehicle PCM through the OBDII port - it is configured for gauges (many custom displays), code reading and clearing, and data logging. The gauges can be set so that you get verbal warnings when any of the parameters excede your preset limits (high or low). It is compact, well lit, shuts off automatically - well designed.
It can also receive aftermarket inputs (although expensive), it can be programmed with GPS software, and it can become a tuner.
Again - a different emphasis than the AE. It is not a simple display for $750.
Yes it is expensive. It is not a lot more than if you were to set up 6+ manual gauges.
The DashDAQ is primarily a LINUX computer that connects to the vehicle PCM through the OBDII port - it is configured for gauges (many custom displays), code reading and clearing, and data logging. The gauges can be set so that you get verbal warnings when any of the parameters excede your preset limits (high or low). It is compact, well lit, shuts off automatically - well designed.
It can also receive aftermarket inputs (although expensive), it can be programmed with GPS software, and it can become a tuner.
Again - a different emphasis than the AE. It is not a simple display for $750.
Yes it is expensive. It is not a lot more than if you were to set up 6+ manual gauges.