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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Timing Cover Seal leaking...

Just bought a '92 F-150, 156k miles, and the timing cover seal is leaking. From searching on the forum, some have said it's an easy fix. From looking at the problem, what all is needed tool wise and what all should be replaced if I get into it that far.

I'm pretty sure I can do it, but it will have to be done over the course of several days to a week or so, since I do not have a garage and I will have to rent tools most likely to do it. Would it be better to get a quote from a reputable shop in town? I don't know how much this would cost. I searched the forum and saw where the FTE member Nightrain had it done, but it's been nearly 4 years ago.

Any ideas or help would be appreciated.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Its not hard but its a PITA!

Use plenty of RTV on the oil pan gasket to timing cover gasket..

harmonic balancer puller will be needed and a good gasket scraper.. Other than that normal tools.


Here is when I did mine.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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Hey 86, looked at your write up and pics. Outstanding job on the pictures and the finish up! Should I also replace the timing gears and the chain since I am going to have to pull it? About how long did it take you from start to finish?

Thanks again for the help!
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Remember to put a new front crank seal in while you have the timing cover off.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Thanks Old93! Will add it to the list of things to do when I get into it.!
 
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by timbersteel
Hey 86, looked at your write up and pics. Outstanding job on the pictures and the finish up! Should I also replace the timing gears and the chain since I am going to have to pull it? About how long did it take you from start to finish?

Thanks again for the help!
Thanks

How many miles do you have on your truck? If alot I would go ahead and replace them while your in there.

If I would have kept working on it all at once probably 4 hours.


Np bud lmk if you need anything else.


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Remember to put a new front crank seal in while you have the timing cover off.

My timing cover gasket kit came with one.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 07:08 AM
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What motor ?? If this is the 92 4.9 in your sig i think they are gear driven , but either way replace what ever it needs while your in there ...Lew
 
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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What motor ?? If this is the 92 4.9 in your sig i think they are gear driven , but either way replace what ever it needs while your in there ...Lew
Wow I didn't even pay attention to what motor.. I just assumed it was a v8.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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No, not the 4.9. I just got bought this '92, 302, with 156,000 miles. I need to update my sig. I figure it's gonna need all new when I get in there. It was NOT well taken of..What a shame...

I will update when I get into it. The weather here in Missouri is in the upper 90's with heat index's in the triple digits, not to mention all the rain we have gotten.

Thanks for all the help & info relating to this!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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Hey 86F150302 or Lew52, the gasket for the oil pan looks to be in really good shape. No nicks, cuts or irregularities. Do I really need to replace it with the new cork left and right ends and the center rubber gasket for the "U" for the oil pan? It looks to good to be cut, but want to hear from experience before going any further.

Thanks!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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If it looks good i would just use some RTV on it....
 
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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good deal! I know in the haynes and the chiltons manual it says to cut it flush, but the gasket isn't really sloppy, or mashed. Gonna try and finish it up tomorrow. Thanks again!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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I did this on my truck a while back. Fel-Pro makes a kit that has all the front seals and gaskets. I didn't cut the pan gasket cause I replaced mine. Just be generous with the RTV, but don't overdo it. I replaced my timing set while I was in there just for my own sanity. I used a factory style double roller that my buddy hokked me up with, gave me his 20% off at Advance Auto. Also, the timing set I got didn't come with gaskets, some do and that makes them slightly more expensive. Kind of redundant if you buy the master front cover set.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 02:31 AM
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Timing cover gasket replacement

Replaced my timing cover gaskets and seals last month. Very strongly suggest replacing timing gear and chain set with good performance aftermarket double roller set. Performance aftermarket sets have index settings allowing you to advance or retard cam timing 2 degrees. Take advantage of that. CA 5.0w/5.8w are equipped with oem double roller, but they are no longer available from Ford. There is no cam position sensor on OBD1 systems, so the fuel injector and ignition timing sensor are all-in-one inside the distributor. Worn timing gear/chain slop retards cam timing and worsens spark scatter because timing is not as precise.
OEM ford parts is all I would normally recommend because they fit. especially the front shaft seal. I have had too many seal and gasket leaks using aftermarket gasket sets. that is simply too much work to do twice.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 02:38 AM
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Use a Felpro oil pan gasket and guaranteed you will have an oil pan leak. I would use a Ford OEm factory pan gasket, (even used with extra sealant).
 
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