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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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89 into an 87..

swaping my 89 5 speed into my crew cab (87)..the wireing looks different.. but I can figger that out..what I want to do is drop my turbo from my 96 e-350 on her,, what do I need to change or tune ,or modyfie to get it to make it work .. I have exhaust manafolds and the up pipe.. what differance is there to the injector pump??what do I need to watch for??
 
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Interested in the 5 speed swap. I have an 86 with a 4 speed. A 5 speed OD trans would make interstate travel much better.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kenjh
swaping my 89 5 speed into my crew cab (87)..the wireing looks different.. but I can figger that out..what I want to do is drop my turbo from my 96 e-350 on her,, what do I need to change or tune ,or modyfie to get it to make it work .. I have exhaust manafolds and the up pipe.. what differance is there to the injector pump??what do I need to watch for??
a 96 would be a powerstroke, which from what I understand is way different from an IDI turbo. I know pretty much everything has to be custom made for it to work. Theirs a couple rigs running around with pstroke turbos. Its alot of work to make one work on an IDI and the most boost they would make was about 10 psi IIRC.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Interested in the 5 speed swap. I have an 86 with a 4 speed. A 5 speed OD trans would make interstate travel much better.
it a straight swap .everything has bolted up so far..
 
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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my 96 is a powerstoke , I am upgrading with a garret ballbearing turbo,and a dpt tuner.won't the stock turbo work on the pre power stoke?
 
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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anything will work its just how well acquainted with a grinder, welder and plasma cutter that will make the difference.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 11:59 PM
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my 96 is a powerstoke , I am upgrading with a garret ballbearing turbo,and a dpt tuner.won't the stock turbo work on the pre power stoke?
Short answer, no. Powerstrokes and IDI's really only share displacement. I did it about 6 years ago and all the pipes, drains, etc. had to be fabricated. For the time and expense and grief I could have bought a new IDI specific turbo like a Banks, ATS, Hypermax.
It never worked as well as expected, and maxxed out around 8-10 psi.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 12:40 AM
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the short answer wins ..thank you
 
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Short answer, no. Powerstrokes and IDI's really only share displacement. I did it about 6 years ago and all the pipes, drains, etc. had to be fabricated. For the time and expense and grief I could have bought a new IDI specific turbo like a Banks, ATS, Hypermax.
It never worked as well as expected, and maxxed out around 8-10 psi.

well how far did you crank the pump? boost is mostly derrived from how much fuel you are putting into the combustion chamberand how easily it can flow out.
IE: more fuel in, more combustion taking place, bigger volume of gas going out the exhaust.

ive helped. i did most of the work he payed for everything. put a turbo off of a 3126 CAT onto a 7.3, we had rebuilt the engine and made sure it could hold 35-40 lbs of boost. then cranked that bad boy. we had to fine tune it a few times by turning some more screws up there was smoke on upshifts while waiting for it to spool. it was about like putting a 62MM onto a cummins. it wasnt bad. could have been better but it still built 30-35 lbs of boost. we over built the engine for a reason. had one off injectors made to provide proper atomization at those kinds of pressures, sent the pump off to get reworked. and ran a 4 inch down pipe to dual 6 inch stacks.

anything is possible. it just takes more money than other routes.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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Like you say, time and money will do anything. My pump was cranked up, I forget now how much, but enough that I was rolling coal.

To me, It just isn't more efficient than getting the system designed for the job originally.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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well how far did you crank the pump? boost is mostly derrived from how much fuel you are putting into the combustion chamberand how easily it can flow out.
IE: more fuel in, more combustion taking place, bigger volume of gas going out the exhaust.

ive helped. i did most of the work he payed for everything. put a turbo off of a 3126 CAT onto a 7.3, we had rebuilt the engine and made sure it could hold 35-40 lbs of boost. then cranked that bad boy. we had to fine tune it a few times by turning some more screws up there was smoke on upshifts while waiting for it to spool. it was about like putting a 62MM onto a cummins. it wasnt bad. could have been better but it still built 30-35 lbs of boost. we over built the engine for a reason. had one off injectors made to provide proper atomization at those kinds of pressures, sent the pump off to get reworked. and ran a 4 inch down pipe to dual 6 inch stacks.

anything is possible. it just takes more money than other routes.
How'd you get the valley pan to hold that sort of pressure?
 
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How did you keep the head gaskets in, valley pan in and the exhaust manifolds on it?

I know what I had to do at a machine shop to run mid 20's.

40 PSI make the effective compression ratio 80 to 1.
 
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