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I have this '54 f600 I have been talking about so much lately. I am going to make a nice dump truck out of it. I already bought a decent bed and the bed has an air lock for the tail gate. I like this feature, but how should I hook up an air compressor? I really dont want to mount it on the engine, and I am staying with 6 v. I thought maybe I could hook it up to my PTO shaft some how. what do you guys think?
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The problem with PTO driven is it's only going to make air when the PTO is engaged, obviously. Since you can't really go driving around with the PTO kicked in, you may not have air handy when you need or want it. That's why electric or engine driven pumps are better.
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Just run one off your engine crank pulleys with a belt that has a pressure dump valve . With a v belt drive no electric clutch. That way you would have pressure all the time to hold the latches shut. I know your don't want one on the engine.
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It shouldn't be any worse than when an air conditioner compressor cycles in and out. It's not a big deal. As far as money, I don't think any of your options will be significantly different in cost, and if you need air, it shouldn't be your number one concern, imho. Functionality should be.
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An electric compressor will draw alot of power. An engine mounted one wont.
I have both mounted on my truck. I have an electric one in case the engine doesnt work. I got the engine compressor at the junk yard from an old a/c equipped car. The electric one I bought new offline.
They both have other pros and cons such as the engine one will give you lots of air quick but has to be plumbed a good distance due to location (also any pressure is really available). Electric compressors take less plumbing and no oil (most e.d compressors need oil regularly) but cant easily reach the same pressures as the e.d.c. Also they can take a while to fill the tank.
Its really a matter of opinion when it comes to these choices. Good luck
I have both mounted on my truck. I have an electric one in case the engine doesnt work. I got the engine compressor at the junk yard from an old a/c equipped car. The electric one I bought new offline.
They both have other pros and cons such as the engine one will give you lots of air quick but has to be plumbed a good distance due to location (also any pressure is really available). Electric compressors take less plumbing and no oil (most e.d compressors need oil regularly) but cant easily reach the same pressures as the e.d.c. Also they can take a while to fill the tank.
Its really a matter of opinion when it comes to these choices. Good luck
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how much air are you talking? cause you could use a small pump on the engine,and hook up a 5 gallon resivoir. That way you have air when you need it and dont haveto run the pump all the time.Do some googling on york compressors. They make good OBA units.
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I just need enough air the run the tail gate lock. has anyone ever mounted an air compressor on a y block before?
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How much air does the tail gate lock require? Does it need pressure to keep it latched? Or to trip the latch? Depending on how much you use it, you might get away with simply filling up one of those 5 gallon storage tanks with 150psi from your home compressor before you leave the house and have that work. If you only need a small amount of pressure and/or volume, you may not need a compressor.
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This came on my Lincoln Y, but may have been part of the fire truck conversion back in 1953
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Air Compressor
The simple solution would be to take a York or Techumsi air conditioning compressor and drive it off the engine. These pumps use a electric clutch and can be set up with a pressure switch. Check out the off road forums for info this is a easy setup to do and can be done with minimum cash outlay. I set up a couple of offroad trucks this way and it works great. On my F600 wrecker I used a factory style air brake compressor , for on board air to run air tools and tire work. This setup works great also. I also used the air for my air ride seats,. Both systems make 120 to 130 psi. and make enough air for my 3/4 drive air wrench. If you have any questions let me know.
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Well, I would just like to have something that is factory, I dont want to spend a great deal of time or money on this. Also I know of were there is a 1953 ford f800 or 900 dump truck, so it would have an air compressor, I am not familiar with the larger engines, so will this bolt on to my 256?