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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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I'm looking to swap a 6.9 or 7.3 IDI into my '77 F150 and need some help with the tranny. Ive seen that there are some(6.9's mainly) that are connected to a C6, so is that C6 different than mine(factory as far as I know), or would mine bolt up to a IDI? Basically, what are my options for the tranny, which needs to stay mechanical. I dont want to mess around with an electric(e40d and such) Thanks guys
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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You need a C6 from behind one of those engines.

Those are too heavy for an F150, so you have suspension issues to deal with too, and probably some frame reinforcing too.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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I plan on boxing the frame, and for suspension adding bigger springs, possibly from an f250. What else would you recommend doing?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Starting out with an F250. I know, call me silly.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Starting out with an F250. I know, call me silly.
What? I dont understand...
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 02X72
What? I dont understand...

Depending on fab skills and such.... most feel that by starting with a 3/4 ton truck (or more) presents fewer hassles! Not only may you consider some beef on the frame.... generally speaking the rest of the drive train is just not suitable in the long run! Too much torque!

But.... it still can be done!

 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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72 f250 w/ 99' 7.3 powerstroke

The factory E4OD is what I used on my swap and I have not had any issues, I would recommend that or the factory 5 speed these trannies are designed to handle the kinda torque the 7.3. The only other trans I would consider would be an Allison but I dont know how you could get it 2 work with the 7.3.???or if its even possible???But I would have to agree with Hardrockn...starting out with an f250 or f350 you would miles ahead in the end. Although I have seen a 7.3 in an early bronco so it can be done.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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I know a bigger chassis would be ideal but I picked this truck up for nothing and have too much work into it now to get rid of it. How would the E40D work with the IDI, as far as it being an electronically contralled tranny go? Also, I found an '88 f350 with a 7.3 for sale cheap, cant i buy the motor, tranny(auto is all i know about it) and rear end from it in my '77 and be good to go? any problems with that swap?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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As long as you get the trans computer and all the wiring you need, that swap should be fine. The 88' should have an E4OD and the only computer needed is for the trans. The engine is mechanical.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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The E4OD didn't come out until 1989 in the Bronco and 1990 in the F-series so a 1988 F-350 would have a C6.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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Im gonna go take a look at it this weekend and as long as the motor checks out and it has a C6 I'll probably pick it up. Its too good of a price and too easy of a swap if it is to let it pass up. Thanks guys
 
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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We have just started driving the 74 with 6.9 C6 and 2.75 ring&pinion.
It still has enough torque to spin the tires and speeds up to 75
make for smooth driving
 
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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I know a bigger chassis would be ideal but I picked this truck up for nothing and have too much work into it now to get rid of it.
I wouldn't get rid of it. I'd build an F250/350 chassis and swap the body.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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F100-F250s in the 67-72 use the same frame same i-beam's kingpins same front springs.I'm not sure but can some one say for sure if the 73-79s are the same way?
F350 is a much heavier
 
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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I'm gonna look at swapping the body of my '77 onto the '88 frame from the donor F350. I know it will be alot of work, and likely require I take the rear cab support from the '77 frame and move it over, but you all have me convinced it will be worth it. Ill post back after I take some measurements
 
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