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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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Question Power steering swap ?

I'm swapping a '76 390 from an F-150 into a '75 F-250. The '75 has NO power steering / the '76 does. Will the 1/2 T PS work in the 3/4 T ? Any extra parts need swapping or is it a direct swap. I have an extra pump and 'cooler' line. Don't need the PS, but it would be nice for her.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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this is what i did an i have over a year driving it on the road so there are no problems








so there you go love it or hate it . if you got ??????????? then ask
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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The parts needed for a swap from non-power steering to power steering (assuming 2WD here) are:

P/S Pump
P/S Cooler
P/S Lines
P/S Gearbox
P/S Steering Column
P/S Idler Arm

Don't know the exact answer for the 3/4 ton to 1/2 ton part but, assuming 2WD, I would think they are interchangeable. I think that is all the parts needed but it has been more than 30 years since I did it and memory fades over time...
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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Thanx much 4 the info. Main concern was the steering shaft length. The idler arm may be swapped out if 1/2 T and 3/4 T are the same. Can "adapt" if needed. First - pull the engine < for rebuild].
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by akforceten
this is what i did an i have over a year driving it on the road so there are no problems








so there you go love it or hate it . if you got ??????????? then ask
That double steering knuckle does not bind? WOW! Who's is 2WD? These pictures are of a 4X4 correct? I would love to do this to my 73 Highboy.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by firstonraceday
The parts needed for a swap from non-power steering to power steering (assuming 2WD here) are:

P/S Pump
P/S Cooler
P/S Lines
P/S Gearbox
P/S Steering Column
P/S Idler Arm

Don't know the exact answer for the 3/4 ton to 1/2 ton part but, assuming 2WD, I would think they are interchangeable. I think that is all the parts needed but it has been more than 30 years since I did it and memory fades over time...

Sorry for the High Jack,
Is the list above for a 2WD? If so what is needed for a 73 F-250 Highboy?
Thanks,
Mike
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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yes MADFord4X4 mine is a 4x4 high boy. i have been driving her for over a year with no problems. there are more pics in my garage.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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The leaf springs and axle were noticed < 4X4> in the 1st photo (which looks good). My 150 & 250 have coil springs <RWD>. Are there any other major differences. The main concern I have is the steering shaft length, which may be swapped. The 150 has a "slush box" and the 250 has the 4 spd w/ "granny" low. - Fabrication and adaptation, I understand. Just trying to 'line up the ducks first".
 
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 06:54 AM
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Yes, the list I provided is for 2WD. I've never done a 4x4 p/s swap. I would think that the difficulty of the 4x4 swap would be dependent on whether you are trying to use that hydraulic assist steering (rams on steering linkage) or the integral power steering (frame mounted gearbox). But like I said, I've never done a 4x4 swap.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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Firston raceday - Suggestions noted and appreciated - I assumed it wouldn't be that hard with (supposedly) all the parts on hand. The 4X4 conversion was nice, but I want it to be "factory" if possible. The "strong arm" steering is light and easy, but she would like power, 'specially in the "twisties" around here. (East TN hills). Again, much thanks.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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the parts i used are :


mid 80's dodge steering box with plate and pitman arm

one steering joint from mid 90s honda

reuse your ford intermediate shaft

3" steering arm spacer

ford steering arm from 76 f-2504x4

early 80's chevy truck drag link

custom made pressure hose , i took the end from the dodge hose an the end from the ford hose an had a hydraulic shop make a hose with those ends on it

power steering pump from 78 ford truck

i had to use a balljoint reamer to enlarge the pitman an steering arm holes out to fit the chevy drag link.. i also had the ends of the intermediate shaft turned down to fit the honda steering joint and cut set screw slots . i also should mention i had swapped out the front end to a d44 with disc brakes from a 76 f-250

i got most of the parts from local wrecking yard

ask questions if you got them
 
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 10:14 PM
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akforceten - For sure, you sound like a true 'Webfoot'. I'm from Medford. The main thing I miss is the salmon runs (fishing). << That's the best way to "waste" a day.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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i have been in oregon for 4years now i lived in alaska for over 43 years and i miss the fresh salmon an halibut shrimp an all the good things
 
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