oil pan....
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From: Las vegas
as far as getting what ever fall in out I have no idea I've only done them on Internationals where the crosmeber bolts in and on mine when both engines were out and I was swapping the ford style pan over.
Methanoholic
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From: Maine (NorCal Native)
The biggest problem doing it under the truck is getting it clean so it'll seal back up nicely!
I have done it once, I'll never do it again, I pull the motor so I can flip it and do it right!
It's a lot of work just to have a gasket leak do to an oily gasket surface.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
I have done it once, I'll never do it again, I pull the motor so I can flip it and do it right!
It's a lot of work just to have a gasket leak do to an oily gasket surface.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
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From: Sand GAp, KY
I agree with yo on that one Festusbut I don't always have a place to pull the engine. Most of my adult lif I have had to work in a driveway. I have learned to get the job done with what I have is all.
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From: Nutter Fort, WV
Ken I built my 6.9 turbo outside my storage shed/garage on a cement slab.
Hard to call it a garage since there is no way my 86 would fit through the door and it has a gravel floor.
I have heard of people unbolting the motor mounts and jacking the engine up till it hits the floor pan, then blocking it up that high.
Remove the oil filter.
Now unbolt the oil pan and drop it as far as possible.
Then unbolt the oil pickup and drop it in the oil pan.
You are SUPPOSED to be able to get the oil pan out with a little wiggling.
Reassembly is the reverse, just don't forget to drop the pickup tube in the oil pan before it goes under the engine.
I have never done it this way.
And looking at the size of the oil pan, I have a hard time thinking it is possible.
But as I said before, members here have reported it is possible.
Hard to call it a garage since there is no way my 86 would fit through the door and it has a gravel floor.
I have heard of people unbolting the motor mounts and jacking the engine up till it hits the floor pan, then blocking it up that high.
Remove the oil filter.
Now unbolt the oil pan and drop it as far as possible.
Then unbolt the oil pickup and drop it in the oil pan.
You are SUPPOSED to be able to get the oil pan out with a little wiggling.
Reassembly is the reverse, just don't forget to drop the pickup tube in the oil pan before it goes under the engine.
I have never done it this way.
And looking at the size of the oil pan, I have a hard time thinking it is possible.
But as I said before, members here have reported it is possible.
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From: Campbell River, B.C.
If it were me I would just pull the whole engine but I have a tall over head chain hoist to make things easier and lifting the engine over the rad support is no problem.
I also wonder how good a job you could really do if you are reaching up from under the engine to do your surface prep.
Although if it works its much less work that trying to lift the engine clean out of the truck. If if doesn't you can still do that. I used the cork gasket that came with my engine kit but applied RTV sealer on it anyway.
I also wonder how good a job you could really do if you are reaching up from under the engine to do your surface prep.
Although if it works its much less work that trying to lift the engine clean out of the truck. If if doesn't you can still do that. I used the cork gasket that came with my engine kit but applied RTV sealer on it anyway.
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From: Marianna, Florida USA
Being the lazy ******* that I am, Iwould wash the area down with Brakleen. Then I'd slather it with Sealall. If that didn't work, I'd pull the motor.
PS: Thanks for the edit whoever you are! I got carried away.
PS: Thanks for the edit whoever you are! I got carried away.
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From: Campbell River, B.C.
This is the style we have but much older since it was bought used. The lighter chain is a loop that goes up over a chain wheel. Depending on which side you pull the chain wheel, it will raise or lower the load. Releasing the chain will allow the load to fall until an automatic ratchet catches (it drops by about 1/4" before that happens). Some overhead rollup garage doors use the same chain wheel method.
The heavy chain has a hard anchoring point at one end, a hook at the other, and the load wheel with slack in between. You can see the slack loop hanging down in the image. The load wheel bears all the weight, and when all the slack is taken up, it won't go down any further.
Ours is attached to the main overhead beam of four 2x12s with a big lag bolt and piece of 1/2" steel plate. I think the engine is probably the heaviest thing I ever had to lift with it but it didn't budge. Very easy to use too.
Methanoholic
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From: Maine (NorCal Native)
I built a '71 Ford 2.0 in the back seat of a VW Bug in an apartment complex parking lot, no one even knew! Thats when the ol'lady started hiding the bank book! Long story, big bux!
I did a 289 on the 4'x8' back deck of a town house ... two of us carried it through the house nearly fully dressed, used the cheap tin carport shelter to pull it and set it in, in the dark!
I know about not having a place to do things, like most, fought it all my life!
Doesn't change my opinion about pulling a pan upside down, they usually leak... Not always though, sometimes some get lucky!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
I did a 289 on the 4'x8' back deck of a town house ... two of us carried it through the house nearly fully dressed, used the cheap tin carport shelter to pull it and set it in, in the dark!
I know about not having a place to do things, like most, fought it all my life!
Doesn't change my opinion about pulling a pan upside down, they usually leak... Not always though, sometimes some get lucky!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
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If Festus can do that I guess I should shut up about no room!! At least I got a roof! David,I can get one of those from a friend,I am still trying to figure out a support for it,{without going broke AND hearing it from she who runs the house}
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From: Sand GAp, KY
Sorry I didn't mean to impy that I was the only one lol. I just know that it is the way I usaully have to do it. I prefer to have it on a stand but it rarely happens for me. Right now I have a hour long drive one way to get access to a garage it really sucks. That is were I will be doing the body swap later this fall.
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From: Sand GAp, KY
Rick what about a couple 6x6's set up as an A-frame over the truck bolted together at the top with a couple plates and a cross beam near the top also plated on? Hang the hoist from the cross beam 6x6. Just be sure to brace the bottoms so they don't push out.