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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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vin decode 65 Falcon Van

hi everybody! first time ever using a forum! i have looked through a lot of threads on here, and havent found the info yet, for my van. i just bought a 65 Falcon van. i see the "numbers dummy" has a lot of info for the vin plates. i am going to post all info, with hopes of finding out what's up with this thing.
E11JH651667
090 C E110 589 A 01
75

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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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1961 econoline vin

I just bought an 1961 econoline I have been trying to decode the vin too. All I found so for is it was assembled on July of 1961 in Lorain Ohio.

E10SH197232

Thanks for any help.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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E11- Std Station Bus
J- 240 6 cyl
H- Lorain, Ohio
651667- Feb 1965
090- Wheel base
C- Special White(Paint) #1525-A
E110- Std Station Bus
589- Could this be F89 or E89?
A- c-4 Automatic Trans
01- 3.50 Ratio Axel
75- ? (Distric Code)
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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first, thanks, rkatk.
second, the 589 is 589. it's under "Body" on the plate.
it also does not have an auto trans in it. pretty sure it's stock, with a 3 on the tree. its definitely a 3 on the tree...
the main thing i wanted to get was the J code meaning, which i found in another thread, and you confirmed it. it's a 240.
thanks for the input.
i'll be posting other threads, soon i'm sure... i am going to go a little crazy on this drive train...
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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vin

My book shows all body codes starting with a letter? The 3 speed standard transmission code is "G" "A" shows to be automatic in the book? Does your vin number on the data plate match the vin number on your title? sometimes the doors get changed and the data plates with them? Just a thought.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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all the info i put on here is off of the warranty/vin plate, on the door. it's the original door. the vin on the paperwork is the same.
i looked again, at the plate, and it's defintitely a "5" on the body code... the trans is an A, also.
like i said, i mainly wanted to know what size engine is in this thing, as i intend to replace it with a v-8. from what i've read, the vans with the 240 are the easiest to do this with... i will find out very soon... i am sure i'll be asking more questions, as i get closer to doing the swap.
thanks again.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Best way to confirm the door plate is to look at the back braces in front of your taillights. Stamped on the braces is the serial from the factory. If this matches your door plate serial # then the van is correct. Then I says someone has swapped the trans out and put in a standard. The A is suspose to be an automatic.
But to confirm it check the braces for the factory serial number.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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wow... that's nuts.i did confirm the back brace. it's the same vin.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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The back braces are what I look at now. So many have over the years had doors changed and newer owners do not know about. They later find out the the van they bought is not a 61, but a 67.
I like to see interior shots. 64 and down have the heater on the floor. 65 and newer are mounted under the dash. Also the engine doghouse are smaller and shorter in height. for 61-64. Plus they are bolted flat all around the house to the floor. The 65-67 the doghouse has a more raised hood over the doghouse than the flat top early ones. Also the back of the doghouse has a hump in the floor that doghouse bolts to. The newer trannys need more room.
Another area is the triangle peice on the steering colunm to the dash.
The 61-62 have 2 bolts through the side into the steering colunm. The 63-65 1/2 have the bolts go though the top to a bracket that bolts to the colunm. 65 and newer have a larger triangle and sits more level. They do not slope down as much. This also put the steering wheel closer to the driver. , but with a bit more angle on the steeringwheel.
These thing all help me to figure what years they are without looking at numbers when they are not visiable or available at a quick look.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 66gpw
The back braces are what I look at now. So many have over the years had doors changed and newer owners do not know about. They later find out the the van they bought is not a 61, but a 67.
I like to see interior shots. 64 and down have the heater on the floor. 65 and newer are mounted under the dash.it's mounted under the dash. Also the engine doghouse are smaller and shorter in height. for 61-64. Plus they are bolted flat all around the house to the floor. The 65-67 the doghouse has a more raised hood over the doghouse than the flat top early ones. Also the back of the doghouse has a hump in the floor that doghouse bolts to. The newer trannys need more room. has the hump...
Another area is the triangle peice on the steering colunm to the dash.
The 61-62 have 2 bolts through the side into the steering colunm. The 63-65 1/2 have the bolts go though the top to a bracket that bolts to the colunm. has the bolts through the top. 65 and newer have a larger triangle and sits more level. They do not slope down as much. This also put the steering wheel closer to the driver. , but with a bit more angle on the steeringwheel.
These thing all help me to figure what years they are without looking at numbers when they are not visiable or available at a quick look.
thanks for the input. i just find it hard to believe that someone would change it over from an automatic, to a manual tranny. unless the HAD to... the reason i am confused, aside from there being a manual tranny, is because i saw some threads for 61's, that had the A code for the tranny, and they were listed as 3 speeds/column shift...
 

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In 61 the tag would of show the #1 in the trans colunm. of the data plate. In 61 they only came with standard trannys. The auto came later. Not sure what year. I think it could of been 63.
I have shop manuals ona 61 ,65,66 Econolines here. I hope to get the other years eventually.
I have 3 trucks and 2 van body's here of my own. I also have 3 more van bodys for a friend who also has two more at home. (one being an old military ambulance) He is restoring both on his limited budget. As I have a limited budget. My wife keeps me in. Oh Hi honey, Nothing just talking to my friends. LOL LOL. Just kidding here.
 
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