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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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i went to get a tile for my 49 and the lady said i would have to take the last owner o court and force him to get a title and transfore it to my name.
the previous owner is in illinois and im in ohio.
he refuses to get a title.
im gonna see what it would cost and if it gets to much then ill just get a new truck and use the one i got now for parts.
i dont wanna but thats what it is gonna hve to be i guess.
i thoughtall you gus would like to kow how my project came to an end for now.

swanny
 
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 08:36 AM
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swanny,
around here you can file for a lost title if you dont have a title.
some magazines also have a site that you can get titles for vehicles over 25 yrs old. let us kn ow how you make out. by the way whats the guys problem?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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Swanny,
Don't give up! You can file for that "lost title" with the DMV. Explain to them the circumstances that guy's being, and see how you fare.

Was there any kind of agreement or money exhange for the truck? Did you give him something in exchange for it? Even if he said, "ah heck, you can have the old thing", that's a binding contract. Technically, you can sue him for non-completion of contract terms (or however your state refers to it as). Every contract has deliverables as part of what's called "implied consent". You consented to give him something (or take possession of something with his consent to do so) AND he agreed to receive something from you (or agreed to the terms of the deal/contract). He is obligated by law to his portion of the "due dilligence" incurred in the contract and to do so in a timely manner. Tell the DMV that. If they still don't bite, speak to a supervisor at the DMV, explain your situation with this putz, and find out a remedy from them. (man this kind of stuff really chaps my ***!)

Or, if no one's gonna be the wiser and the cost of a new truck is less than the hassle of dealing with this schmuck, screw him! Use the truck for parts. You'll have the original truck in so many pieces in no time that no one could even find remnants of the original truck to fight over.
Ever see the movie, "Fried Green Tomatoes"? Hell, they ended up serving the evidence ( a dead body) to the cop investigating the alleged murder in the form of barbequed beef sandwiches. the guy ATE the evidence over a period of time while investigating the crime! Parody: dismember the original truck and serve it up to the new truck in pieces!
Sorry you came across such an ***; people like that are wasting air that other people, REAL people, could be breathing.

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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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i got the truck off of e-bay, for 200 dollars.
the guy stated there was no title and when we went to pick it up he said he might have it in a pile of titles he got.
it was out of a old bone yard slash scrap yard.
but after dad talked to him acouple of times he said he didnt have time to look in the pile and he refuses to look in the pile.
and he also said he wouldnt file for lost title if he didnt have one.
none of the cars in his yard, that he inherited, is in his name or his grandpas name.
they are all still in the original owners name.
the truck is all over my garage and i could get rid of all of it so fast.
they cant track stuff that has no reciept.
but i know plenty of people and plenty of places around here.
i got that part covered.
ill try and take to the head honcho of the title place.
i talked to one of the ladies behind the desk and thats what i got out of her.
maybe i can sweet talk the head person.
the auto teacher at my school said i dont need to take the guy to court.
he said he never heard of it.
but ill give it another try and maybe i can keep this one and show this one.
but if i have tagive it back i might have some bargines for you guys.

swanny
 
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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Swanny,
I'm no lawer but what about other angles:
1.) File a mechanics's lein. Easy to prove, you've totally disassembled the vehicle for 'restoration' and the original owners have not paid a dime.
2.) Abondoned vehicle. Most states have a mechanism to tow and sell at auction abondoned vehicles and give the new owner clear title. You just have to figure out how to make this work for you.
3.) Work this through a 'friendlier' state, such as THE GREAT STATE OF ALABAMA.
Good Luck!
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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AHHH Ebay I had a bad experince with a title too I drove all the way to St.Louie to pick this truck up and to find out the guy hadn't made a new title he just had the one with the original owners signature. I took the truck anyway and had it sit in my garage for a month ot two till he sent the title but back to you. I know of you can get a title made for a kit car or street rod just have to have the V.I.N number. I made a bill of sale and had the previous owner sign it. Just how much of an idiot is he? I got my guy to send it(title) with a little talking but yours sounds pretty arogant. Check with the local DMV some more maybe with the head "honcho" over there like you said. Did you pay cash? The bank might have a record of a check or so forth but now I'm getting into territory that I don't know. Hope this works out for ya.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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we payed cash for it.
so..........
im gonna take a trip to the title place tomarrow after school, it is right down the road.
i really appreciate everyones help.
ill keep you guys posted and keep the ideas rollin in.

thanks again,
swanny
 
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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When I got my '52 the guy didn't have a title or anything so I got him to sign a paper with sale price and VIN number.
Over this summer when I registered it at the DMV I tried to get the lady to run a check on the VIN just to find out some of it's history, she did but they don't keep anything on record if it hasn't been registered within 7 years... so now it is registered, and according to them I am the first owner of the truck... which is too bad because I would love to know the history...
 
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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i did have him sign a paper.
but ill have to go and try again tomarrow.
ill take my paper work this time.

swanny
 
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 04:20 AM
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Just go to the DMV with a bill of sale signed by Ronald Reagan (real messy signature) Give them the VIN numbers, and the title is yours. It worked for me. (hehe Ronald Reagan) True story.

As long as the truck is not reported stolen or anything you will be fine.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 07:59 AM
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If you want to see how bad it can get look at this link. And look at the posting dates. This guy has been going at it for awhile. But there are some interesting ideas on how to get a title throughout the postings.

CAUTION! For those guys whose blood pressure rises when they hear the word chevy more than once in 5 minutes, don't go to the link. But after all, we all are old car and truck guys right?

http://www.chevytalk.org/threads/sho...b=5&o=&fpart=1
 
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 09:09 AM
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The very least you can do is trash this guy's reputation on eBay on the seller's feed back. I know this might not be much help with your situation but at least you might be able to warn others. If this person inherited a whole junkyard he will be selling other vehicles in the future and hopefully this will affect his future sales.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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I would offer some advise about ebay sellers. You can use their feedback as leverage, as discussed before. However, you must let the guy know before hand that you are able, and willing to trash his feedback rating. If, after the threat, he still refuses to comply, you have the option of leaving negative feedback. However, I think it is only fair to point out that he did advertise the truck with "No Title" from the beginning. So, it does seem that he complied with the terms of the sale, unless he made different arrangements afterward for extra renumeration. Good luck, John T
 
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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Swanny, I just read an ad in an old "Rod and Custom" magazine I was looking through. It is a 2000 issue, so I'm not even sure if they are still in business, but it is worth a try. They are right here in Rochester, NY where I am. According to their ad; No previous paperwork needed. 100% legal. All years up to 1988. Fast low cost. (585) 342-5769 US Auto & Title Co., Inc. Let me know how you make out and good luck! Tom
 
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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You only have 90 days to post feedback on ebay. If the guy advertised "no title" in the auction text, it wouldn't be right to give him bad feedback anyway. Theoretically the fact he had no title would be in the final price Swanny paid.

It sounds like Ohio has tough title laws like Iowa does. I have bought cars that were laying in the weeds for 20 years. No problem, they just ask you to pay 20 years worth of license fees because they assume the vehicle must have been driven illegally all this time.

You usually have a few options around these laws. You can launder it through another state with no hassle licensing and bring a clean out of state title back to Ohio. I have heard some of the southeastern states are real loose only asking for a receipt for older stuff. Some insurance companies will do a title search and get you a new one. I believe you have to post a bond for a couple hundred dollars though. Though it would be worth that if your truck were done.

Good luck, you'll get it worked out Swanny.
 
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