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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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Bad lifter or something more serious?

Last week I was driving my truck and it quickly developed a pretty loud tick. I drove it about 10 miles home after that. After listening to the engine with a stethoscope I decided it was in the valvetrain. The engine has about 5000 miles on it. When I first pulled the valve covers I spun the oil pump & had oil up to all my rockers. Upon inspection, I noticed that the rocker on the #4 exhaust valve was very loose (approx. 0.080” clearance). I pulled the lifter and noticed that the surface that runs on the cam was not as smooth as it should be. I pulled the adjacent lifter and found that the #4 exhaust lifter is about 0.150” shorter than the adjacent one. I can’t see the cam lobes very well but just feeling with my finger on the base circle I can’t feel any difference between the one #4 exhaust & the #4 intake lobes. Do you think I just got a bad lifter or is there likely a more serious problem here? Should I replace all the lifters? Should I pull the cam or just try to look at it the best I can from the top of the engine? In advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nnewman
I pulled the adjacent lifter and found that the #4 exhaust lifter is about 0.150” shorter than the adjacent one.
The body of the lifter is 0.150" shorter? If so that would indicate a lot of wear or real bad quality control.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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We have a trend building:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...is-before.html

New oils lack zinc additives that are needed for non-roller cams in older motors, so I hear....
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 06:19 AM
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I used Rotella with a break in additive for break in, & have been using Rotella since then. I thought that would keep me from having this problem, but I guess not. I'll try to see what the cam lobes look like & post an update this afternoon.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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I have been talking about zink additives at work (Oreilly's) for a while, co-workers say I'm wasting time and money!

stuff like this proves it!


But do I need it in by 87 with 135,000 miles?
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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I would think so man. Yeah sometimes i wonder about the guys working at the big box parts stores cause they seem to not know what they are talking about alot of the time
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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would this be good?









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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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the Rotella is great oil to be using.

hard to say what the issue is just yet though. pulling the cam may be your only option at this point.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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I took some valve lift measurements today. While my measurements weren't exact, I kept coming up with 0.070"-0.100" shy of the spec on that valve with a solid lifter in. On the adjacent intake valve I measured w/in 0.010" of the spec. Looks like the cam is coming out.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Pulled the cam today. That one lobe is worn down about 0.060". All the other lobes are perfect. I don't think it was a bad (i.e. soft) camshaft or the damage would have been more widespread. I'm blaming this one on the lifters (Summit brand).
 
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