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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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6.0 or 6.4

I am in the market for a used f250. I have been looking at 2006 to 2008 trucks. Question is what should I get? I like the fuel milelage of the 6.0's the quietness and interiors 08 with the 6.4. I have heard of a lot of problems with the 6.0. But honestly we have about 8 of them here at work and they have all been perfect. For those who have had both which way should I go?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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If you can afford the 6.4, I'd do that. That way you're definitely clear of 6.0 problems and it's quiet as well. Mileage with the later flashes seems to be much better than when they were brand new.

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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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If you are going to leave the truck stock, go with the 6.0L. If you can pony up and do a DPF delete and tuning, get the 6.4L.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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pops stock 6.4l gets horrible fuel mileage,likely it has to do with that big white cloud behind you when she regens i dunno,but its poor at around 12-13 avg with a stock bed!
put my bed on one of those trucks and its likely to be 7-8 mpg.
i wouldn't want one even if it is a powerhouse.
im happy going the speed limit with an old school 7.3l.

i have a feeling 10 yrs down the road,the 3rd/4th owners and outside warranties will strip the smog junk and see some sort of practical fuel mileage.
perhaps by then,and with enough reports claiming mid teens,i MIGHT consider one.
no reason new trucks cant beat our fist generation diesel rigs fuel mileage today,other than greed of course.
to much focus on being able to haul 50 tons while doing 150 mph with pretty leather and cup holders.
yesteryears rigs where made for the working man.we dont want rawhide seats and a truck with dvd players.
we want something to take a load,last a long time maintenance free,and get close to,if not 20mpg,and thats what many still do (not with big beds like mine of course,but im knocking on 16 mpg's door with it.)
todays trucks,you overpay and get less rig,and costs more to maintain.im glad its pops with the new 6.4 making payments while i chose to build up and fix old faithful.
-end rant lol.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT
pops stock 6.4l gets horrible fuel mileage,likely it has to do with that big white cloud behind you when she regens i dunno,but its poor at around 12-13 avg with a stock bed!
put my bed on one of those trucks and its likely to be 7-8 mpg.
i wouldn't want one even if it is a powerhouse.
im happy going the speed limit with an old school 7.3l.

i have a feeling 10 yrs down the road,the 3rd/4th owners and outside warranties will strip the smog junk and see some sort of practical fuel mileage.
perhaps by then,and with enough reports claiming mid teens,i MIGHT consider one.
no reason new trucks cant beat our fist generation diesel rigs fuel mileage today,other than greed of course.

to much focus on being able to haul 50 tons while doing 150 mph with pretty leather and cup holders.
yesteryears rigs where made for the working man.we dont want rawhide seats and a truck with dvd players.
we want something to take a load,last a long time maintenance free,and get close to,if not 20mpg,and thats what many still do (not with big beds like mine of course,but im knocking on 16 mpg's door with it.)
todays trucks,you overpay and get less rig,and costs more to maintain.im glad its pops with the new 6.4 making payments while i chose to build up and fix old faithful.
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this forum is for 6.4, not 10 year old trucks and he just might need a newer rig to tow/haul heavy.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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The 6.4 is a good motor, much fewer issues that with the 6.0.

6.0 I think can be a good motor is left alone.

6.4 is beefier and mod friendly, but does have the emissions stuff. So be prepared for a little more maint and attention to the motor. Not much but you do need to pop the hood weekly and check the levels.

Severe maint schedule should be mandatory with this motor, but it will pull a house if you ask it to.

So how would you use the truck if you got one? That may be the better question to ask first.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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6.4 seems to have a few less problems but when they arise are much more expensive cause there'r harder to work on. I will go with the techs advice that I have seen and stick with the 6.0 till I see the ring out of the 6.7. Just my op. everyone has one.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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6.4 seems to have a few less problems but when they arise are much more expensive cause there'r harder to work on. I will go with the techs advice that I have seen and stick with the 6.0 till I see the ring out of the 6.7. Just my op. everyone has one.
Agreed... I would pass on the 6.4.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by senix

this forum is for 6.4, not 10 year old trucks and he just might need a newer rig to tow/haul heavy.
it may not become lame advice/experience to you in the future.
it is the 6.4 section of the forum.however this question belongs in the "General Diesel Discussion" section of the forum.

see,while i was between rigs and saving/shopping/deciding what to do,i borrowed my dads 08 f350 4wd 6.4l truck last summer.

when he bought it,i noticed a leak from the radiator.they replaced it on the spot before driving it off the lot.

i went to fuel up last summer once,and pulled out of the station and the truck stalled out and wouldn't start leaving an extremely heavy truck in the middle of the road.
let me tell you,that was a hard push to get to the ditch!

luckly it was close to home.i then had my truck and was fixing it up.we went down and towed it home with my 17 yr old truck.
so the comment of he may "need" a newer truck to me,sounds
where as you personally think mentioning an older truck is.perfectly fine with me.
the main thing here is we all share our experiences,and let the op decide whats needed/wanted.

back to topic,
what had happened to dads truck the dealership said was a bad EGR valve.
apparently it had stuck open or closed.cant recall which,but anyway the engine would not run and i thought i had fueled up with some REAL bad watered down diesel or something.i mean it scared me.wasn't my truck and i had just fueled up.
dad said it was a $600 or so repair.lucky for him he purchased a 200k/and or i think 5 yr warranty.
not sure,but i think he may have had to pay the tow bill though,and the new shiny truck was down not making $ for that week.

first hand experience.despite what i own/in my sig.
consider it lame or not doesn't bother me.im just sharing my experience.

he and i both enjoy that '08 VERY much (course i haven't even driven it since last summer,now i think of it.) i hope the problems with it are over.powerful/smooth/clean as can be.
he wants to ditch the regen mode but says he cant due to the 200k mile warranty.so he's kinda stuck with poor fuel economy and smoking for mosquitoes.

edit:
while in this section of the forum this new thread here made me remember something:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...pf-delete.html

thats just what he said had happened when he changed the oil.he saw fuel in the base!!!! sad thing is,he got mad at me because of it lol! im glad to see now,that of course that wasn't my fault either and that guy saw the same thing.
thats REAL bad for an engine right there guys.no way to sugar coat that one.thats not good to see another person with the issue.research it more to see how common that is op!!
fuel in the base results in spun main/rod bearings! search this section,and i wouldn't doubt at all to see these symptoms already happening if that issue is as common as i think it may be.
i haven't spent anytime researching this engine to be honest.just a few experiences to share thus far.

yikes.there is another new thread on it right here:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...crankcase.html

i may have to get dad to read this so he can just bypass this thing.warranty or not.the engine cant last with fuel in its base.no way.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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I will be using this truck mostly as a hunting and fishing vehicle. It will also be used occaisonally to haul a Skid loader maybe only a couple times a year though. But the reason for the Super duty vs an f150 is we have a 8000 lb 29' travel trailer. In a few years we may be upgrading to a 5er that we can hook the boat behind. As far as mods. New intercooler, cold intake and maybe exhaust. Not sure if I would do the dpf delete as I am a little leary of getting nailed for on road use. I really like the 6.0's at work with no mods. Only low point is they are loud when at idle
 
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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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I have had both. First a 2005 CC 4X4 KR and now a 2008 same set up. Quite honestly from my view point I couldn't tell a lot of difference in the two power wise. The 2005 was louder and got about 2mpg better than the 2008. I like the Sirius radio integrated in the stock radiofor 2008 but had a separate set up in the 2005 so I still had Sirius radio.

Both pulled my 10,000lb trailer really well. The only reason I got rid of the 2005 was because of an oil leak. It started at 20,000 miles. It wasn't a major leak and when it was at the dealer for oil changes I would have them check it out. I had two different dealers look at it three times. I never could get a straight answer and it continued to leak. It would only leak a couple of drops overnight. However, even one drop a night and I have 365 drops of oil staining my drive way over a years time. I leased it and since I couldn't get the leak fixed by the end of the lease at 36,000 miles I just turned it in to Ford and walked away.

I was without a truck for about a year and had to have another one. So I got a 2008 new. It has been an awesome truck and I now have 27,000 miles on it. Quite honestly I really like both trucks and could live with either forever barring problems. If you are going to get a 6.0 stick with a 2006 or 2007. If you are going to get a 6.4 stay away from the 2008 Job 1 trucks. A lot of them had radiator problems. There are guys on here with 2008 Job 1 trucks that have had no problems but it seems there have been more radiator problems with 2008 Job 1 trucks than with Job 2 or 3 2008s.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 05:40 AM
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I have a 02 7.3 F250,I was looking at a 05 6.0 4 door 4X4 dually,King Ranch.My wife fell in love with it,we were going to buy it,untill i read up on the problems on the 6.0's.Now we are saving more money for a 08 with a 6.4,bummed her out!
 
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by senix
The 6.4 is a good motor, much fewer issues that with the 6.0.

6.0 I think can be a good motor is left alone.

6.4 is beefier and mod friendly, but does have the emissions stuff. So be prepared for a little more maint and attention to the motor. Not much but you do need to pop the hood weekly and check the levels.

Severe maint schedule should be mandatory with this motor, but it will pull a house if you ask it to.

So how would you use the truck if you got one? That may be the better question to ask first.
1) less issues, I have for the last 2 years now made more money on 6.4 repairs then on 6.0
2) the 6.0 runs good when modded to a reasonable level. the 6.4 runs better though.
3) 6.4 is not any beefier. in fact it's a rod bending beast when the egr cooler fails. Dont ask how many #8 rods Ive hung, or short blocks replaced.
4) you dont think a 6.0 will pull a house?

with all I have seen and had to fix Ill take my lumps with a 6.0 all day long. sorry just my .02
 
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 12:08 PM
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When the 6.4 is out of warranty,do you think it is a good idea to delete the egr on it?Since they have the problems with the rads.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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When the 6.4 is out of warranty,do you think it is a good idea to delete the egr on it?Since they have the problems with the rads.
egr has nothing to do with the radiators failing.
 
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