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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Source for metric fasteners?

My latest project is hitting a little snag- Mercedes, in their infinite wisdom, used 12point M10x1.0 bolts to hold the flywheel to the crankshaft on their diesels. It's a 12mm head, so of course I didn't have a high quality 12point 12mm socket and wound up rounding several of these bolts. Now, I need to replace these and can't find anything that will work and not cost a fortune. All the M10x1.0 bolts I can find are a 17mm head, which is pushing it for fitting in the space, socket heads seem unavailable in that size, and Mercedes wants $7.80 EACH for these bolts which are necked and possibly a TTY anyways.
I've tried Fastenal, Mcmaster-Carr, and a few hours worth of online searching, but have come up empty. Does anyone have a source for this size thread in a socket head or a 14mm head?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 06:52 AM
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What's the length?

MMCC has a Distribution Center in nearby Hawthorne where I can buy 'onesies' over the counter. Would grade 12.9 inhex be suitable?
http://www.metricmcc.com/catalog/Ch1/1-43.pdf
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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Interesting, they never came up during my search. For the time being, I have ordered some coarse thread 10mm socket head screws, partially threaded in 70mm length, along with a 10x1.0 die. I'll cut them down, and thread them the way I need for this prototype. When I get to production, even just for my own, I'll order the proper ones. Thanks.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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What length do you ultimately need Jared?
Flywheel bolts are stout for a reason. Be real careful modifying something for this application.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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I need them to be 30mm long. The ones I am modifying will not be actually used in an operating engine, they are for setup so I can take a bunch of pics and have everything look right plus have the flywheel bolted up tight so I can square the input shaft to make sure it's all correctly aligned.
Fastenal does not have these on the shelf. I checked the Rexburg store, and Idaho Falls plus a few other places. Fastenal does have the hex head ones listed online, but they are a 17mm head which places the bolts a bit too close to get a socket on them.
Here's what they put in the car from the factory:

These appear to be a TTY, but I have not been able to get a straight answer on that aside from the FSM says not to reuse them. Pre-78, they used socket head bolts.
There are 12bolts holding the flywheel on, so strength shouldn't be an issue with 10.9 grade bolts.
 
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Definitely look TTY.
Seen many similar bolts in German connecting rods.
 
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I'm using Linux, so no catalog for me. The company I priced them through is called Fastlane, they specialize in these cars, and typically have the best prices. They had the $7.80 price. I suppose I could call the MB dealer in Pocatello and get the real Mercedes price, but I have a feeling it's a hair more expensive. Put a three pointed star on anything and the price goes up-
 
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