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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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how to figure MPG

I have a 1997 f 150. I went 1028 miles and used 55.7 gal of fuel, so I got 18.45 MPG by that figure. But stock tire size is 235 70 16. My tires are 245 70 16. How would I adjust the miles?

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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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What ever you got is correct. The only difference is the width of the tire and that won't make any difference . It will cause a little more friction
on the road is all.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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I see. Thanks!
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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Just wanted to add...

When calculating fuel mileage, make sure you fill your truck up to the brim, as in stand at the pump, and fill it till no more gas can enter the tank.

Next time you fill up do the same and you will get a much more accurate reading on your mpg, then filling your truck up till the pump clicks off.

On my honda civic (daily commuter car) if I fill the tank right to the brim, I can get an extra 200ish km's out of that tank, so that goes to show ya how you can get mixed readings unless you fill your tank to the brim each time, and figure the average that way.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SteevenH
What ever you got is correct. The only difference is the width of the tire and that won't make any difference . It will cause a little more friction
on the road is all.
Wrong. He needs to add 1.9% The footprint/width is wider, and the second number is the same, but it's not the height of the sidewall, rather it's the ratio of the sidewall in proportion to the footprint.

When it says you're going 60MPH on your speedo, you're going 61.1mph. So add that 1.9% to get your "true" MPG.

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Just wanted to add...

When calculating fuel mileage, make sure you fill your truck up to the brim, as in stand at the pump, and fill it till no more gas can enter the tank.

Next time you fill up do the same and you will get a much more accurate reading on your mpg, then filling your truck up till the pump clicks off.

On my honda civic (daily commuter car) if I fill the tank right to the brim, I can get an extra 200ish km's out of that tank, so that goes to show ya how you can get mixed readings unless you fill your tank to the brim each time, and figure the average that way.
Just a word to the wise, doing so isn't safe, nor is is good for your automobile. You have vent tubes and charcoal canisters that need to be cared for, which is why most pumps have a "do not top off" sticker. Also, as crummy as they may seem, the auto shut off must be accurate before it's allowed to be put at the pump (well, the newer vapor recovery ones) and IF I remember correctly, standard deviation on those are less than quarter an ounce. That's part of the reason why these undercover specialists go inspecting fuel stations and issuing the blue star seal you see, verifying (in California) it's accuracy and functionality.

Also you're saying you can get 200KM out of topping off? That converts to 124.27 miles. So assuming you're getting 35MPG in that civic, you can squeeze about 3.56 gallons extra in there? A bit of a stretch, isn't it?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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I'm not a tire expert so I don't know for sure. Heres what I do know. The 245 has a 1/4 inch taller
sidewall than the 235. ( calculated by using the aspect ratios of both tires. ) But if the overall height of
the tire, center of rim to top of tread is the same with both tires. The two tires will travel in a circle in the same
distance. Thus your speedometer would stay the same.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Two circles cannot have the same radius but different circumference.


Here's one of my favorite Tire size calculator
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mawk
Just a word to the wise, doing so isn't safe, nor is is good for your automobile.
Well, this isnt true, unless your leaving your vehicle to sit, with that full of a tank. To fill it to the brim, then burn that fuel off right away, does absolutely ZERO harm to your vehicle, and the components. If you filled it up that full then let it sit, yeah, your probably gonna run into some problems with your tank expanding.


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and IF I remember correctly, standard deviation on those are less than quarter an ounce. That's part of the reason why these undercover specialists go inspecting fuel stations and issuing the blue star seal you see, verifying (in California) it's accuracy and functionality.
The problem isnt with the pump shut off, its with how it splashes into your tank. As minor as it seems, you can lose ALOT of accuracy when you let the pump click determine your fuel mileage. (When your tank is right to the brim, its absolutely 100 percent full, which is about as accurate as you can get!)There is just NO ACCURATE way to average ones mpg of their vehicle, unless ya really top that tank off!

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Also you're saying you can get 200KM out of topping off? That converts to 124.27 miles. So assuming you're getting 35MPG in that civic, you can squeeze about 3.56 gallons extra in there? A bit of a stretch, isn't it?
Civic gets 48 mpg canadian, driving at the posted speed limits of 110 kph up here.
Not a stretch at all either, I put on about 65,000 kms on my civic a year, and about the same on my diesel f250, and I USED to do ALOT of highway trips of 5-700 kms a day(1-2 years ago i was putting on well over 120,000 a year), and I calculated my mpg frequently.
 
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Originally Posted by SteevenH
I'm not a tire expert so I don't know for sure. Heres what I do know. The 245 has a 1/4 inch taller
sidewall than the 235. ( calculated by using the aspect ratios of both tires. ) But if the overall height of
the tire, center of rim to top of tread is the same with both tires. The two tires will travel in a circle in the same
distance. Thus your speedometer would stay the same.
Mawk is right.

235 70 16 circumference is 28.953

245 70 16 circumference is 29.504

Difference is 1.9%.
 
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a 245 tire is 245 mm wide and a 235 is 235 mm wide. they are both 70% side wall height. one tire is 70% of 245, the other is 70% of 235. the 70% is the same, but your multiplying by a different width to get the side wall height. that gives the 1/4 inch taller calcualtion.
 
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So what would be 245 75 16 compaired to 235 70 16
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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If the track the miles and fuel used over multiple fill ups, topping off the tank becomes moot, or nearly so. Particularly if you are consistent in your topping off practices.
You can check the accuracy of your odometer by using mile markers on the freeway. The check should cover at least ten miles to compensate for any errors in marker locations.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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So what would be 245 75 16 compaired to 235 70 16
245 75 16: 30.469 inches
235 70 16: 28.953 inches
 
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