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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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The cables, post and wires look clean. Yes, no problems ever until I replaced the battery and thats what makes this all strange. I have checked the ground and the wires to the transmission. I am stumped!! Hate to replace the starter and it not be the problem.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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It isn't a problems of "looking" clean, you actually have to clean them up to be sure. Clean the cables going to the battery, starter relay, and starter. Clean every connection and you might solve your problem.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 02:15 PM
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X2. No way of knowing the condition of the actual contacting surfaces w/o doing so. Additionally the ground connections are as important as the supply sides.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 04:01 PM
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Ok, I will repost after I clean and inspect more thorough. Since the problem started the day after changing the battery, all signs point to a connection issue don't they? The truck will start but it takes a few tries before the connections are made. Just a slight click is all and then silence. I will let you know what I find. Just hate thought of spending money replacing everything if no need. Thanks for the help and thoughts.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by subford
I think I would have found out why it is not cranking before changing out everything.
Maybe the wire from the relay to the solenoid, it gives a lot of problems.
Does the relay click when you turn the key to start?
Hey buddy , can you tell me where this relay your talking about that goes bad is located , I have similar issues , I can get power to my solenoid on the fire wall by manually pushing the white ignition box all the way forward under the steering column, tried it with two boxes , I doubt they're both bad . So I was wandering where the relay is that should click and what number is it , my truck is a 1995 ford f 150 4.9l manual trans mission , I also checked my safety switch on the clutch pedal, seems to be fine, and still I have the same issue.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 12:15 PM
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The starter relay is mounted on the passenger fender.
The starter solenoid is mounted down on top of the starter.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by subford
The starter relay is mounted on the passenger fender.
The starter solenoid is mounted down on top of the starter.
My relay is working ,I always called that the solenoid , don't know why , I don't have voltage going to the relay you referring to on the fire wall , but it is good cause i can start the truck by jumping the hot terminals , it fires right up , but something is killing my power from ignition to it.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by fastcat1977
My relay is working ,I always called that the solenoid , don't know why , I don't have voltage going to the relay you referring to on the fire wall , but it is good cause i can start the truck by jumping the hot terminals , it fires right up , but something is killing my power from ignition to it.
I've tried my old white ignition box and the newer one and surely both aren't bad , I'm manually pushing the little rod all the way forward just as the keyed actuator would do on the ignition key switch , but everything comes on lights , radio, heat , but no juice to the relay on the fire wall. Please help me ..!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by subford
I think I would have found out why it is not cranking before changing out everything.
Maybe the wire from the relay to the solenoid, it gives a lot of problems.
Does the relay click when you turn the key to start?
I got my daughter to check the voltmter at the solenoid/relay on the fire wall , the wire from ignition is getting 11.5 volts to the relay/solenoid, its not doing anything , but when i jump a short wire directly from the hot /positive post on the battery which is supplying 12.5 volts it tries to fire right up , is it my starter solenoid that's bad cause it needs more volts or what could be the issue..?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fastcat1977
I got my daughter to check the voltmter at the solenoid/relay on the fire wall , the wire from ignition is getting 11.5 volts to the relay/solenoid, its not doing anything , but when i jump a short wire directly from the hot /positive post on the battery which is supplying 12.5 volts it tries to fire right up , is it my starter solenoid that's bad cause it needs more volts or what could be the issue..?
Try this, remove that slip on wire from the fender mounted relay and run a jumper from the positive battery post to that small terminal.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 02:30 PM
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I already have , it fires right up , im trying to figure out if the 11.5 volts im getting from the ignition to that small terminal is not enough or is enough to start it , apparently its not enough voltage and i cant figure out why im having a voltage drop .
 
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 02:31 PM
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Here is the wiring diagram:


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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 12:40 PM
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I'm having this problem with my 77- F150

Originally Posted by subford
I think I would have found out why it is not cranking before changing out everything.
Maybe the wire from the relay to the solenoid, it gives a lot of problems.
Does the relay click when you turn the key to start?
The relay is clicking. Replaced solenoid. Battery is good. Still not cranking. Help please!
 
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 01:15 PM
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Welcome to FTE

It helps others to start a new thread with your specific issue versus piggybacking on a 6 year old thread, it gets confusing who is talking to who. No worries though.

One "trick" you can try is banging on the starter case with a hammer. When a starter begins to wear out sometimes the brushes don't make good electrical contact with the armature. A few "love taps" will often persuade the starter to get busy, for a while anyway. If this works, take the opportunity then to drive straight to an auto parts store and get a new starter. Take a spare key with you to lock the doors and don't shut the motor off. The hammer trick may work for a while, or it may not.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2016 | 01:31 PM
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Thanks. Sorry for the piggyback

Was in a rush and didn't even realize how old the thread was. Just took the starter to O'Reilleys and it tested good. The cable however was exposed and one end broken actually. May be the problem. Just bought a new cable, crossing fingers. But weird thing. The radio also was not coming on randomly but all other electrical works. There is also box of some sort under the dash. It's where the clicking is coming from. Maybe ignition relay switch??


 
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