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Old May 27, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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Leaking coolant...again!

I took my 05 F250 (6.0L 69K) in the dealership for a coolant leak about a month ago and was told that the coolant overfill reservior was bad. It was changed out for $800+. Then a week or so later it was leaking again. This time I was told the oil cooler was bad. This was covered under warranty so that was ok but then I open the hood and my fan shroud was beat to sh%$ including the PowerStroke Diesel emblem scratched and bent to hell. Luckily I checked it right when I got home. They didnt even bother to tell me it was damaged. I went back and after the service guy brought out the diesel mechanic he finally admitted to it after some coaxing by the service guy. After searching here on the forums about coolant leaks I went back and looked at my paperwork from the last time I was there and they only replaced the oil cooler and did not replace the EGR cooler. It was my understanding from what I have read that when the oil cooler goes bad it usually causes the EGR cooler to go bad. Is that correct? I called the dealer and the diesel mechanic said he tested the EGR cooler and it passed whatever test they do to test it. So if that is not the problem then what is it? Any help would be much appreciated. Sorry for the novel. I am very frustrated at this point.
 
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Old May 27, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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i think the only way to tell if your egr cooler's bad is if it's leaking into the intake, i could be wrong though. you'll know, with out a doubt it's bad when it goes.
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 12:48 AM
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Pull the egr. valve and see if it is wet inside if so, than your egr. cooler is leaking.
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Knuts
I took my 05 F250 (6.0L 69K) in the dealership for a coolant leak about a month ago and was told that the coolant overfill reservior was bad. It was changed out for $800+. Then a week or so later it was leaking again. This time I was told the oil cooler was bad. This was covered under warranty so that was ok but then I open the hood and my fan shroud was beat to sh%$ including the PowerStroke Diesel emblem scratched and bent to hell. Luckily I checked it right when I got home. They didnt even bother to tell me it was damaged. I went back and after the service guy brought out the diesel mechanic he finally admitted to it after some coaxing by the service guy. After searching here on the forums about coolant leaks I went back and looked at my paperwork from the last time I was there and they only replaced the oil cooler and did not replace the EGR cooler. It was my understanding from what I have read that when the oil cooler goes bad it usually causes the EGR cooler to go bad. Is that correct? I called the dealer and the diesel mechanic said he tested the EGR cooler and it passed whatever test they do to test it. So if that is not the problem then what is it? Any help would be much appreciated. Sorry for the novel. I am very frustrated at this point.
What dealer in s. ca. charged you $800 for a degas bottle and labor so I know where not to break down!
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 08:54 AM
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69cj beat me to it. That's a lot of labor for two bolts and 3 hose clamps. My understanding of Ford's current warranty policy is: Failed EGR cooler = egr cooler and a new oil cooler
Failed oil cooler = new oil cooler and test the EGR cooler. If Egr cooler passes test, no new EGR cooler.

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Old May 28, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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Thanks guys for the input. It was southbay ford in Manhattan Beach. To be honest with you I am not happy with the service there and I will not be going back. This is my first diesel truck and I am used to older gas motors. I have a 74 Jeep CJ5. So not knowing much about diesels I just thought I would leave it to the experts. But now I am thinking I am going to start to learn about diesels. If I would have just taken the time to learn how to change out the coolant reservior which I am sure I could do I would have saved some $$$. Does anyone know which so cal ford dealership has the best service and best diesel mechanics???
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Sorry to hear you spent that much on a degas bottle, but maybe a little insight on your other repair may help. The above mentioned is correct-oil cooler is bad, replace and TEST egr cooler. By testing, block off plates are fastened to each exhaust end of the cooler, then a regulated amount of air pressure is applied, and then the cooler is submerged in water. If bubbles exit from coolant ports, after the initial air has been evacuated, then the cooler fails. This test can be done with the cooler hot or cold. On the contrary, if the EGR cooler is found to be the cause of coolant loss, then it is replaced, as well as rebuilding the oil cooler with a new heat exchanger. Hope this helps...
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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Yeah dude, screw your dealer. If I were you I'd do it myself. Or atleast find a good trustworthy diesel shop. Go ahead and get new HG's, studs, EGR delete, rebuild your oil cooler, and a coolant filter. Than call it quits. It seems to me that you have already spent a hefty amount of cash at your dealer just "band-aiding" these fixes.
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Knuts
Does anyone know which so cal ford dealership has the best service and best diesel mechanics???
These are not dealerships, and they're a bit of a drive from the South Bay, but either one of them are highly competent and I have no problem recommending them for any work you need done on your truck.

OC Diesel Shop in Mission Viejo OC Diesel Shop - Home of Bud (Bud was the head diesel tech at Tuttle-Click in Irvine for many years prior to opening his own shop)

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Old May 28, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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Thanks Fordwrench. Yes I agree MacBook I am done with the dealerships. I am going to take Stevebricks advice. I made an appt with Bud at OC Diesel. Thanks everyone for the input. This site is amazing.
 
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When you get it squared away be sure to update this thread and let us know how it worked out.
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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My Degas bottle and cap was warrantied under the 100K engine warranty. It was just the $100 deductible
 
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i would also let Ford customer care know that a dealer charged you 800 bucks for a degas bottle. That is pure highway robbery if that is all they did.
 
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Originally Posted by rickatic
69cj beat me to it. That's a lot of labor for two bolts and 3 hose clamps. My understanding of Ford's current warranty policy is: Failed EGR cooler = egr cooler and a new oil cooler
Failed oil cooler = new oil cooler and test the EGR cooler. If Egr cooler passes test, no new EGR cooler.

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this is the correct information.
 
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