6-speed controller?
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Having owned a similar truck in the past, I must disagree... the new f-150 has a much stronger frame and is much more capable than the trucks of that era. While I love the looks and heavy duty axles, transfer case, and your choice in motors, it will never handle a trailer as well as these new trucks or be as reliable. I am not saying your old truck is a bad piece of machinery. I'm sure it is quite capable, as my old 77 was. Just don't hate the new stuff bucause they are more comfortable and a lot more urban types drive them nowadays... And most of the aftermarket tuners will void the warranty, and you cannot simply ininstall the programming and claim there was never anything aftermarket on the vehicle, as the Ford techs are pretty savy on looking into the computer and seeing what REALLY happened... Buyer beware.
Also, the adaptive shifting strategy is for real... Read any owner's manual or talk to any engineer. Disconnecting the battery actualy should not effect that strategy though... it is suppossed to store that in the ECM to negate it having to relearn how to shift everytime the battery dies (not that it happens often).
Also, the adaptive shifting strategy is for real... Read any owner's manual or talk to any engineer. Disconnecting the battery actualy should not effect that strategy though... it is suppossed to store that in the ECM to negate it having to relearn how to shift everytime the battery dies (not that it happens often).
I do not hate the new stuff some of it is nice, I guess... Nothing I want, but so-what Mother Ford (et al) obviously don't need my money.
The point to this post is simply the Adaptive Strategy is not doing what the Paper or People say it will do, AND the dealership claims that it is functioning 100% correctly. Therefore, the strategy can not adapt enough or the base assumptions are incomplete or incorrect. The customer/owner/driver is understandably extremely unsatisfied with the performance, and I can not blame him at all. Thus my OP.
Again thanks for the tip on Edge, and they would be my choice, email has been sent.
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Just a quick update: If I owned this truck I would be pissed!
Running around empty lightly loaded on level ground, the transmission is fine, in-fact I will go so far as to say it always "shifts" great.
Unfortunately, whoever programed WHEN it shifts never loaded the truck!
With only four adults and an empty bed coming over a pass (Read that a long {miles} and steep hill) I was running about 50-MPH caught behind a slower car. The opportunity came and I stepped into it (not floor'd) and started to pass (In "D") the truck launched nicely commandingly ran out the gear that it was in, and... would not up-shift, I waited a second and as the revs continued to climb to the limiter and the transmission never up-shifted. At this point I let out of the throttle and then it up-shifted where I promptly gave it (even more) throttle and it pulled nicely and would not up-shift until I again... got out of the throttle when it shifted and I stomped it to the floor and it did not down shift (no need) and pulled hard, well up over 100MPH.
Conclusion.
The transmission simply does not shift when it should. Under any 'load' it refuses to up shift. Towing on anything other then flat terrain is simply an exercise in frustration as the engine is spinning away unnecessarily until you trick the damn computer into shifting.
I know that this is "Blasphemy" this transmission is poorly programed and while the gearbox itself is great the "Adaptive Strategy" is completely compromised by an extremely poor base map that renders the strategy an exercise in frustration as you have to fool the transmission into doing what it should!
Frankly give me a C6 in this truck and it would be a HUGE improvement!!
Have a great day!
Running around empty lightly loaded on level ground, the transmission is fine, in-fact I will go so far as to say it always "shifts" great.
Unfortunately, whoever programed WHEN it shifts never loaded the truck!
With only four adults and an empty bed coming over a pass (Read that a long {miles} and steep hill) I was running about 50-MPH caught behind a slower car. The opportunity came and I stepped into it (not floor'd) and started to pass (In "D") the truck launched nicely commandingly ran out the gear that it was in, and... would not up-shift, I waited a second and as the revs continued to climb to the limiter and the transmission never up-shifted. At this point I let out of the throttle and then it up-shifted where I promptly gave it (even more) throttle and it pulled nicely and would not up-shift until I again... got out of the throttle when it shifted and I stomped it to the floor and it did not down shift (no need) and pulled hard, well up over 100MPH.
Conclusion.
The transmission simply does not shift when it should. Under any 'load' it refuses to up shift. Towing on anything other then flat terrain is simply an exercise in frustration as the engine is spinning away unnecessarily until you trick the damn computer into shifting.
I know that this is "Blasphemy" this transmission is poorly programed and while the gearbox itself is great the "Adaptive Strategy" is completely compromised by an extremely poor base map that renders the strategy an exercise in frustration as you have to fool the transmission into doing what it should!
Frankly give me a C6 in this truck and it would be a HUGE improvement!!
Have a great day!
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Just a quick update: If I owned this truck I would be pissed!
Running around empty lightly loaded on level ground, the transmission is fine, in-fact I will go so far as to say it always "shifts" great.
Unfortunately, whoever programed WHEN it shifts never loaded the truck!
With only four adults and an empty bed coming over a pass (Read that a long {miles} and steep hill) I was running about 50-MPH caught behind a slower car. The opportunity came and I stepped into it (not floor'd) and started to pass (In "D") the truck launched nicely commandingly ran out the gear that it was in, and... would not up-shift, I waited a second and as the revs continued to climb to the limiter and the transmission never up-shifted. At this point I let out of the throttle and then it up-shifted where I promptly gave it (even more) throttle and it pulled nicely and would not up-shift until I again... got out of the throttle when it shifted and I stomped it to the floor and it did not down shift (no need) and pulled hard, well up over 100MPH.
Conclusion.
The transmission simply does not shift when it should. Under any 'load' it refuses to up shift. Towing on anything other then flat terrain is simply an exercise in frustration as the engine is spinning away unnecessarily until you trick the damn computer into shifting.
I know that this is "Blasphemy" this transmission is poorly programed and while the gearbox itself is great the "Adaptive Strategy" is completely compromised by an extremely poor base map that renders the strategy an exercise in frustration as you have to fool the transmission into doing what it should!
Frankly give me a C6 in this truck and it would be a HUGE improvement!!
Have a great day!
Running around empty lightly loaded on level ground, the transmission is fine, in-fact I will go so far as to say it always "shifts" great.
Unfortunately, whoever programed WHEN it shifts never loaded the truck!
With only four adults and an empty bed coming over a pass (Read that a long {miles} and steep hill) I was running about 50-MPH caught behind a slower car. The opportunity came and I stepped into it (not floor'd) and started to pass (In "D") the truck launched nicely commandingly ran out the gear that it was in, and... would not up-shift, I waited a second and as the revs continued to climb to the limiter and the transmission never up-shifted. At this point I let out of the throttle and then it up-shifted where I promptly gave it (even more) throttle and it pulled nicely and would not up-shift until I again... got out of the throttle when it shifted and I stomped it to the floor and it did not down shift (no need) and pulled hard, well up over 100MPH.
Conclusion.
The transmission simply does not shift when it should. Under any 'load' it refuses to up shift. Towing on anything other then flat terrain is simply an exercise in frustration as the engine is spinning away unnecessarily until you trick the damn computer into shifting.
I know that this is "Blasphemy" this transmission is poorly programed and while the gearbox itself is great the "Adaptive Strategy" is completely compromised by an extremely poor base map that renders the strategy an exercise in frustration as you have to fool the transmission into doing what it should!
Frankly give me a C6 in this truck and it would be a HUGE improvement!!
Have a great day!
I have the 6 speed in another vehicle from 2006 and it does nothing like what you describe.
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I was running about 50-MPH caught behind a slower car. The opportunity came and I stepped into it (not floor'd) and started to pass (In "D") the truck launched nicely commandingly ran out the gear that it was in, and... would not up-shift, I waited a second and as the revs continued to climb to the limiter and the transmission never up-shifted. At this point I let out of the throttle and then it up-shifted where I promptly gave it (even more) throttle and it pulled nicely and would not up-shift until I again... got out of the throttle when it shifted and I stomped it to the floor and it did not down shift (no need) and pulled hard, well up over 100MPH.
Well up over 100MPH? Funny, unless the truck is already chipped, every 09 and 10 F150 I've drive has a speed limiter at 97MPH.
Conclusion.
The transmission simply does not shift when it should. Under any 'load' it refuses to up shift. Towing on anything other then flat terrain is simply an exercise in frustration as the engine is spinning away unnecessarily until you trick the damn computer into shifting.
The transmission simply does not shift when it should. Under any 'load' it refuses to up shift. Towing on anything other then flat terrain is simply an exercise in frustration as the engine is spinning away unnecessarily until you trick the damn computer into shifting.
My truck is heavily loaded all the time (replacement bumpers, commercial topper, lots of equipment) - about 1200lbs. over curb weight. Even with the bed stacked floor to ceiling with heavy (100lbs+) crates, 4 big guys in the truck, etc., I haven't had any problems with the transmission shift strategy.
So - either something on yours is broke, in which case you need to quit whining and go get it fixed under warranty... or the truck is fine and the issue is with the driver.
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When that question, "is there a fix", was asked at a recent show, the reply from the Ford (factory) representative was "trade in your 10 there is nothing we can do with them". Evidently the Fix requires a new truck!
The owner of this one is justifiably looking at anything but Ford
Oh well...
The owner of this one is justifiably looking at anything but Ford
Oh well...
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Another guy heading to the Ram forum! If the truck is under warranty, and does not perform as it should, go to the dealer, another dealer, zone manager, etc. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, and I'll bet the guy who said to " trade it in on a 2011 - - we can't fix the 2010 " has a boss who would be pretty unhappy hearing that comment! From personal experience (with a non-Ford), it might take a while, but it will be fixed! Does your state have a Lemon Law?
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There have been issues with the new six speed tranny's. My neighbor is having shifting issues where his is always hunting for the right gear. It's been like since day one.
He's had it in a few times from what he said and all Ford will say is the usual " we can't duplicate that condition" or their most famous one "that's normal"
I think those 6 speeds were having issues in the Exploders before they even put them in the F150's.
Does anyone have more than 60 K on one of these new trannys yet? Are they still a 60 to 70K tranny then replace? They are one nice looking truck but I'm still suspect about their drive train quality.
He's had it in a few times from what he said and all Ford will say is the usual " we can't duplicate that condition" or their most famous one "that's normal"
I think those 6 speeds were having issues in the Exploders before they even put them in the F150's.
Does anyone have more than 60 K on one of these new trannys yet? Are they still a 60 to 70K tranny then replace? They are one nice looking truck but I'm still suspect about their drive train quality.
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To be clear this is not my truck. I have driven the truck.
Rides nice, fit and finish is ok. Performance wise, it is a great engine. The transmission is... Completely Disappointing.
Ford, well they likely lost a customer, what is a one customer loss?
Not much really, there are a few here that, well, I guess that Ford can do no wrong! They will make up for it; I obviously missed the Kool~Aid!
So the loss of one is nothing.
I mean really, I don't know jack!
How could I know more about vehicle performance then Ford?
Look I bleed Blue. I swear somewhere on me is stamped FoMoCo...
My involvement with this site predates the site by a long time!
Just because I get paid to build Fords WTFDIK!
My Fleet is currently 7-rigs, only Fords.
I'm in the market for a new car, and the only lot I went to was the Ford Dealer.
I was really unimpressed, bang for the buck.
Combine that with the above Transmission and we'll keep looking, not saying that we will not go back to the Ford dealership but. . . For the first time in more then 30 years, I'm looking elsewhere.
Rides nice, fit and finish is ok. Performance wise, it is a great engine. The transmission is... Completely Disappointing.
Ford, well they likely lost a customer, what is a one customer loss?
Not much really, there are a few here that, well, I guess that Ford can do no wrong! They will make up for it; I obviously missed the Kool~Aid!
So the loss of one is nothing.
I mean really, I don't know jack!
How could I know more about vehicle performance then Ford?
Look I bleed Blue. I swear somewhere on me is stamped FoMoCo...
My involvement with this site predates the site by a long time!
Just because I get paid to build Fords WTFDIK!
My Fleet is currently 7-rigs, only Fords.
I'm in the market for a new car, and the only lot I went to was the Ford Dealer.
I was really unimpressed, bang for the buck.
Combine that with the above Transmission and we'll keep looking, not saying that we will not go back to the Ford dealership but. . . For the first time in more then 30 years, I'm looking elsewhere.
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There have been issues with the new six speed tranny's. My neighbor is having shifting issues where his is always hunting for the right gear. It's been like since day one.
He's had it in a few times from what he said and all Ford will say is the usual " we can't duplicate that condition" or their most famous one "that's normal"
I think those 6 speeds were having issues in the Exploders before they even put them in the F150's.
Does anyone have more than 60 K on one of these new trannys yet? Are they still a 60 to 70K tranny then replace? They are one nice looking truck but I'm still suspect about their drive train quality.
He's had it in a few times from what he said and all Ford will say is the usual " we can't duplicate that condition" or their most famous one "that's normal"
I think those 6 speeds were having issues in the Exploders before they even put them in the F150's.
Does anyone have more than 60 K on one of these new trannys yet? Are they still a 60 to 70K tranny then replace? They are one nice looking truck but I'm still suspect about their drive train quality.
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I'm not sure I understand, you build Fords, but you are here asking about the transmissions? You should have a direct pipeline to all the answers you might need. With A plan, you get 3 percent under invoice plus incentives, how could you look elswhere for a truck?