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If you read the links I posted earlier in this thread, at least a handful of people HAVE had problems. And strange ones. And also like I said before, an entire steering system is back there. Guess how many times you'll replace the tie-rod ends or ball-joints on a front-end in 200K miles? At least once. Bet you'll be doing the rear ones on a Quadra-Steer at least once in 200K miles.
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Here's another thread on this subject I just found. While almost all the responders say "no issues" you gotta post # 7
Quadrasteer Reliability .... Matt??? Others? - GMFullsize Forums
"Biggest thing talked about is the use of wrong oil in the rear differential. Lack of mechanics knowledge on what to do with certain codes. For the couple people that have had any problems it has turned out to be corroded connections."
Codes. Which usually means the system goes into failsafe (offline, straight ahead). WHY do I want a steering system that fails to do it's job?
They talk about "fail safe" - as in, it knows something is wrong and goes into straight-ahead mode. I guess that's OK in a system that you don't really use all the time
Quadrasteer Reliability .... Matt??? Others? - GMFullsize Forums
"Biggest thing talked about is the use of wrong oil in the rear differential. Lack of mechanics knowledge on what to do with certain codes. For the couple people that have had any problems it has turned out to be corroded connections."
Codes. Which usually means the system goes into failsafe (offline, straight ahead). WHY do I want a steering system that fails to do it's job?
They talk about "fail safe" - as in, it knows something is wrong and goes into straight-ahead mode. I guess that's OK in a system that you don't really use all the time
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From the link you provided, everyone there seems to love it. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad or unreliable.
I didn't even get 100K out of my well maintained 2000 5.4, a 1994 E4OD, the torque converter on my 2000 4R70W before it started shuddering, or the door lock actuators on my 2000 F150. So if I get 200K mile service intervals on a device that drasticly improves turning radius, I'm in.
There is also much less range of motion on the rear steer axle than the front so less wear.
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I didn't even get 100K out of my well maintained 2000 5.4, a 1994 E4OD, the torque converter on my 2000 4R70W before it started shuddering, or the door lock actuators on my 2000 F150. So if I get 200K mile service intervals on a device that drasticly improves turning radius, I'm in.
There is also much less range of motion on the rear steer axle than the front so less wear.
Mike
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From the link you provided, everyone there seems to love it. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad or unreliable.
I didn't even get 100K out of my well maintained 2000 5.4, a 1994 E4OD, the torque converter on my 2000 4R70W before it started shuddering, or the door lock actuators on my 2000 F150. So if I get 200K mile service intervals on a device that drasticly improves turning radius, I'm in.
There is also much less range of motion on the rear steer axle than the front so less wear.
Mike
I didn't even get 100K out of my well maintained 2000 5.4, a 1994 E4OD, the torque converter on my 2000 4R70W before it started shuddering, or the door lock actuators on my 2000 F150. So if I get 200K mile service intervals on a device that drasticly improves turning radius, I'm in.
There is also much less range of motion on the rear steer axle than the front so less wear.
Mike
As for the Chevy that the Quadra-Steer is in, I doubt the rest of the vehicle lasts 200K without maintenance, including the tranny
Oh, and read up on the "special" gear lube you need to use, and how often it needs to be changed - like 15K ?
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I find it seriously hard to believe that anyone could not see the point of a tighter turning radius. That would be like saying that you don't see the point of turning the wheel all the way to the lock because whatever, you're still turning.
I doubt any vehicle would make it 200K w/o maintenance, that's no suprise.
Special sounds like synthetic lube with friction modifier just like my F150 specs. I haven't read anything about 15K service intervals. Can't be any worse than 30K fluid changes on Torqshift transmissions or diesel fuel filters every 15K.
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I doubt any vehicle would make it 200K w/o maintenance, that's no suprise.
Special sounds like synthetic lube with friction modifier just like my F150 specs. I haven't read anything about 15K service intervals. Can't be any worse than 30K fluid changes on Torqshift transmissions or diesel fuel filters every 15K.
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keep in mind the 4wheel steer option took payload capacity out of the truck..
who wants to buy a truck with less weight rating then it would normaly have ???
even if it does steer just a touch better? its a bad tradeoff if you ask me..
who wants to buy a truck with less weight rating then it would normaly have ???
even if it does steer just a touch better? its a bad tradeoff if you ask me..
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The whole "death wobble" debacle kinda made me happy I kept my leaves...
I'm kinda spoiled, with the second-to-shortest wheelbase Superduty. It's a supercab shortbed, so I can ALMOST turn into a parking spot in almost any parking lot. I might have to back up and take another aim at it, AND fit length-wise into the parking spot, if I hang my nose (or tail) over a Honda's hood
Maybe it's just me, but ... if it was the best thing since sliced bread, it would have sold like hot-cakes.
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Nobody is going to buy those hot-cakes if the only way to get them is in a $7000 package
It was GM's boneheaded marketing that killed it. The killed it off the year they finally made it a much cheaper standalone option.
It was GM's boneheaded marketing that killed it. The killed it off the year they finally made it a much cheaper standalone option.
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In my expereince we see very little trouble with them. I did a couple of position sensors under warranty back when they came out but never anything major. Rumor was they didnt do well for people with boats. 
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Have you worked on any that were over 100K miles?
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Yes, have a good customer of mine that has a Denali with over 200K and its never been touched. Also have another customer with a 2500 suburban (yes they existed but RARE) with 150Kish miles and never done anything to it.
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Not to my knowledge, and they have both been my customers for years and I do all their work.
Now as far as alignments, yes I have done a few on these, if the system is functioning normally its no different then anything else.
Now granted, Im in what I consider a pretty small market so I dont see the volume of vehicles a larger shop in a larger area might see. But the ones I have seen have held up well, MUCH to my suprise and against my original judgment.
Now as far as alignments, yes I have done a few on these, if the system is functioning normally its no different then anything else.
Now granted, Im in what I consider a pretty small market so I dont see the volume of vehicles a larger shop in a larger area might see. But the ones I have seen have held up well, MUCH to my suprise and against my original judgment.
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