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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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it is solid axle tho, almost just like a straight front axle would be.
has stearing knuckles, and a tie rod and computer stuff but other than that its more or less just a straight axle
 
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul curtis
it is solid axle tho, almost just like a straight front axle would be.
has stearing knuckles, and a tie rod and computer stuff but other than that its more or less just a straight axle
Exactly, more to break. I can't imagine how much it would cost if that computer went out in a few years.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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One of the guys that come into the coffee shop has it and said he loves it. I noticed him pulling into a parking spot one day and it's a pretty wild site if you've never seen them before. It was a good idea but it just doesn't scream reliability.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hammerhead90
Sounds to me like it was just a "band-aid" for people that didn't know how to tow, and no matter how reliable it is, is not gonna last as long as an old fashioned solid axle.
Now imagine what somebody who knows how to tow could accomplish with it?

Also, are you worried about the front axle on a 4x4 truck wearing out anytime soon?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hammerhead90
Sounds to me like it was just a "band-aid" for people that didn't know how to tow, and no matter how reliable it is, is not gonna last as long as an old fashioned solid axle.


Is 4wd a band-aid for people who don't know how to drive in winter or mud???


a truck with 4 wheel steering can outmanuver a truck without it....any day of the week.....plain and simple
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Lead Head
Also, are you worried about the front axle on a 4x4 truck wearing out anytime soon?
Guess you don't read the multitude of ball-joint, wheel bearing, inner spindle bearing (needle bearing), tie-rod, pitman-arm, etc threads in the SD forum
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan50hrl
Is 4wd a band-aid for people who don't know how to drive in winter or mud???


a truck with 4 wheel steering can outmanuver a truck without it....any day of the week.....plain and simple

I haven't ever been in a situation where I said to myself man I wish I had 4 wheel steer. 4wd is a whole different thing from 4 wheel steer. I can do just fine in a tight space without 4 wheel steer, but I would get stuck in an instant going through mud without 4wd.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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You've never had to back something around...pull forward get a better angle and try again???? Cause 4 wheel steering would have solved that maybe.........and as for mud....you could have taken a better line or driven around the mud....exact same thing
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan50hrl
You've never had to back something around...pull forward get a better angle and try again???? Cause 4 wheel steering would have solved that maybe

thats what i have a front mount hitch for. it makes life so much easier.
if it is not a straight rearward shot, i have not even tried to park a trailer rear hooked after putting the front hitch on around 15 years ago.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan50hrl
You've never had to back something around...pull forward get a better angle and try again????
And I don't have to waste, what, 10-20 seconds in exchange for less reliability?

Not a trade-off I care to make.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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And I don't have to waste, what, 10-20 seconds in exchange for less reliability?

Not a trade-off I care to make.
I doubt the reliability of Quadrasteer is any less then a regular SRA. Even go poke around on the GM forums, very very few problems reported. Remember that the ball joints, tierods, etc.. in the rear axle move very little compared to a normal front steer axle.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan50hrl
You've never had to back something around...pull forward get a better angle and try again???? Cause 4 wheel steering would have solved that maybe.........and as for mud....you could have taken a better line or driven around the mud....exact same thing

My truck is 2wd on street tires, and gets stuck on damp grass... not really the same.
I have had to change angles on occasion, but I enjoy the challenge
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lead Head
I doubt the reliability of Quadrasteer is any less then a regular SRA.
I've driven SRA's for over 200K miles, even 300K miles, and never a problem. You mean to tell me a quadra-steer is just as reliable? It might be my opinion, but I'll run with it

The following thread (while quite short by FTE standards) may be indicative of the quadra-steer's reliability, but 15K (or 30K) mile oil change intervals for a Dana 60, using special GM quadra-steer synthetic lubricant? I'll pass...

Quadrasteer Cons???? - GM Inside News Forum

Of course, there are horror stories:

My quadrasteer nightmare. - Topic Powered by Social Strata

And reading the entire forum, I can only say "I'll keep my solid axle Sterling, thank you very much".

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Interesting market data included in this article:

Quadrasteer Off Course
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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So once a year (or almost once every three years) you spend maybe $20-30 for a turning radius that's as small as a BMW 3 series, shorter then an Escape Hybrid and CRV and just a foot longer then a Mini Cooper? Sounds like a worthwhile trade off to me.

..and of course if you go searching for a forum dedicated to QuadraSteer support issues you are going to find problems. Just like if you go searching for people with worn SRAs under 200k you'll find them. That is basically the same as saying "After reading the entire V10 section, I guess every V10 blows spark plugs, destroys coil packs and snaps off the exhaust manifold studs, so I guess I will just stick with my old school inferior V8, thank you very much"
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lead Head
So once a year (or almost once every three years) you spend maybe $20-30 for a turning radius that's as small as a BMW 3 series, shorter then an Escape Hybrid and CRV and just a foot longer then a Mini Cooper? Sounds like a worthwhile trade off to me.
What is going on inside there that you need to change SYNTHETIC fluid in a Dana 60 every 15K miles?

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..and of course if you go searching for a forum dedicated to QuadraSteer support issues you are going to find problems. Just like if you go searching for people with worn SRAs under 200k you'll find them. That is basically the same as saying "After reading the entire V10 section, I guess every V10 blows spark plugs, destroys coil packs and snaps off the exhaust manifold studs, so I guess I will just stick with my old school inferior V8, thank you very much"
Oh, I understand that quite well. But I didn't go out and spend either $2K or $4K for an extra set of parts that increase the failure rate.

I spent $600 for an extra two COPs/injectors and associated PCM drivers/pistons/rods/etc, granted. I would also wager that there are a heck of a lot more V10's on the road than GM quadrasteers

I am not trying to convince anyone, it's only my own opinion, and they could GIVE IT AWAY FOR FREE, and I still wouldn't take it. But then, I don't want a 1/2-ton truck in the first place.
 
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