Tires like this / \
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Tires like this / \
What would cause mt tire to lean inward like this / \ ? I have heard that if I jack up one tire and move it cretain ways it will tell you whats wrong with it depedning on what way the tire will move if at all. Is this true? Thanks. 89 F-250 4x4
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Well, spring sag might account for riding lower on your front suspension. Remember that you have independent front suspension, which means that you have two swing axles. Like an old VW Bug or a Triumph Spitfire, they change camber as they swing up and down. From the factory, the front springs had slight positive camber, like \ / to promote slight understeer. As the suspension is loaded and the swing axles' pick-up points get closer to the road (because the entire truck is pressed down on the springs, closer to the road) then the fixed angle of the wheels to the axles will change the camber to neutral, then to negative camber, like / \.
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I saw the old tires the guy I bought it from had and they wore on the inside. He had just put 2 brand new tires on it right before I bought it. So new springs in the front should help?
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That's the Camber alignment angle. Bad ball joints could cause this, but not quite THAT excessive, unless the front end is SERIOUSLY falling apart. . They sell camber/caster adjustment kits for the front end to correct mild degrees of caster/camber. If you have it jacked up, try to move the top of the wheel in and out. Then the sides of the wheel left and right to see if there is any play in the front end to diagnose ball joints, or even tie rod ends.
And yes, if the FT springs are sagged, it would cause that camber angle.
And yes, if the FT springs are sagged, it would cause that camber angle.
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I have looked into replacing the tie rod ends. Would I need to replace the inner tie rods? and how would I know if I would need to replace the inner tie rods. I can see that all of the bushing on the front end, well for the whole truck for that matter are shot. This is my project truck. Right now I am just going to use it to carry trash and to go less than 10 miles to hunt in the winter.
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I worked on an 1981 F250 4x4 that had excessive camber. I found that the inner wheel bearings were exceptionally loose. A washer with a locking pin had been installed in reverse and smashed between two locking nuts that hold the inner bearing, letting it ride on the outer edge of the race. Both wheels were screwed-up same way. Installing new bearings and races with nut and washer kits from NAPA installed correctly; straighten wheels right up.
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just for idea measure inside of front metal part of the wheel right above tie rods say above 3 oclock and behind almost inline with brake adjusters say 9 oclock what is the difference... also jack it up take a crow bar and place under tire and try to move it in and out... hell if youre un sure whats up get new wheel seal and pull wheel bearing and repack if everything looks good....tie rods will make tires wear out if not adjusted right...............besides he never said what size wheel he was running could be a deep dish set in inside and wore out ball joints...pics would help on cement floor how front end sets
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<dl class="list_no_decoration profilefield_list"><dt class="shade">Current Mileage</dt><dd>150,000 - 199,999</dd></dl>I think you need to come up with a plan for this truck.
Ask the questions.
How long do I want to keep it?
How many miles a year will it be driven?
Will anyone else be me drive this truck?
How much rust does it have and what is the rust doing to stop it from running?
Will I hall with it?
How much do time/$$ do I want to put into it?
How much do I have into it now?
Are there other trucks being sold that might work better for you?
Spend some time or have it check out.
Make a list of stuff and put it in order of what will cause the truck to fail when driving it.
If it is long term then get some front springs. Springs compress over time.
Good luck and keep us posted.
<dl class="list_no_decoration profilefield_list"><dt class="shade">Current Mileage</dt><dd>150,000 - 199,999</dd></dl>I think you need to come up with a plan for this truck.
Ask the questions.
How long do I want to keep it?
How many miles a year will it be driven?
Will anyone else be me drive this truck?
How much rust does it have and what is the rust doing to stop it from running?
Will I hall with it?
How much do time/$$ do I want to put into it?
How much do I have into it now?
Are there other trucks being sold that might work better for you?
Spend some time or have it check out.
Make a list of stuff and put it in order of what will cause the truck to fail when driving it.
If it is long term then get some front springs. Springs compress over time.
Good luck and keep us posted.
I have looked into replacing the tie rod ends. Would I need to replace the inner tie rods? and how would I know if I would need to replace the inner tie rods. I can see that all of the bushing on the front end, well for the whole truck for that matter are shot. This is my project truck. Right now I am just going to use it to carry trash and to go less than 10 miles to hunt in the winter.
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