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Old May 10, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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cv conversion with 223

I am looking at the cv conversion and really want to give it a go. Since the budget for the project is going to be a pay as I go deal I am looking to upgrade in stages, front suspension first with power steering and brakes. Has anyone tried powering the crown vic rack with a saginaw pump. I think it would be possible to mount one on the 223, does anyone have experience with this? I am open to suggestions on this and what to do for power brakes. The truck is a 64 6 cyl. with a 3 spd. I am thinking at this point keep the drivetrain as that is the trucks character, but damn that steering is ridiculous. I am going to check the kingpins this week and most likely will find I just need to suck it up. Thanks for your help.

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Old May 10, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Good luck finding P/S mounting brackets for a 223. Only 1961/64 Galaxies came w/a 223 and P/S. These brackets are impossible to find.

What Saginaw P/S pump are you refering to? No Saginaw P/S pump was used with any 223, the Galaxies w/223's used the Eaton P/S pump.

btw: Make sure the CV you get has R&P steering, cuz...none of them did prior to 2002, ditto for its stablemate, the Mercury Grand Marquis.
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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He means the common chevy pump. I would use a newer small GM metric pump on a custom plate bracket. easier to mount. As to mounting the 223 on the CVs aluminum cross member, that will need custom mounts.

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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I had a feeling that once this crossmember gets swapped its the whole chain reaction to customizing the entire truck. Well if i need new motormounts and a bracket has to be fabbed why not swap engine for one with an available bracket and pump on it, etc. I need to wait and plan this out all the way. I'll focus on bodywork first before I go after any mechanical mods.

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Old May 11, 2010 | 12:41 AM
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There are only a few engines that will really fit on the cross member. the 4.6 cammer and Chevrolet. As the cammer has a really shallow front sump on the pan just like Mouse and rats. Anything else is a crap shoot with the front mount oil pump on fords.

Why do all the work to lower the truck then have to high center the engine.


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Old May 11, 2010 | 05:06 AM
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That's why my 302 is on the floor & the 4.6 is going in. It was cheaper to put in the new engine that to add A/C, PS & a rear sump pan to my old 302. Especially when you consider that if I was going to drop the pan - I might as well check the bearings, replace the oil pump, water pump... pretty soon you're into it for a full rebuild.
 
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