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Old May 7, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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BOV

Hey does anyone on this sight run a BOV? I know a few cummins guys who run BOV's but IDK why you would. Any reason someone with a PSD should?
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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i'm curious too. I think they're more for overboost, which we will never see with the big stock turbo, but i bet it would sound cool. lol
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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When I accelerate hard and then let off the gas while it's at high boost I get a "whoosh" from under the hood... maybe back out the intake?

I've heard that can damage the turbo, which makes me wonder where the extra boost goes...

OT: Zixxer, how does your remote start work? Do you have a way to just turn the glowplugs on and then start it?
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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Here's the dumb ? what is BOV
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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I believe blow off valve.
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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That makes sense.
 
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Old May 8, 2010 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Brown Falcon
When I accelerate hard and then let off the gas while it's at high boost I get a "whoosh" from under the hood... maybe back out the intake?

I've heard that can damage the turbo, which makes me wonder where the extra boost goes...

OT: Zixxer, how does your remote start work? Do you have a way to just turn the glowplugs on and then start it?
When i activate the remote start, it has a fifteen second delay, for the glow plugs to be on. Works great! I can use it as a turbo timer too. I activate it with the key still in it and it stays running. I can lock it walk away, and let it idle until i deactivate it
 
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Old May 8, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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BOV's aren't necessary for our trucks. That's probably why nobody uses them. They are for surge protection (when the pressure differential between suction and discharge pressures is too great for the turbine wheel to overcome. From too high discharge pressure and/or too low suction pressure.) On gassers, this is important as there's vacuum to deal with.
 
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Old May 8, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fullcrew7.3
BOV's aren't necessary for our trucks. That's probably why nobody uses them. They are for surge protection (when the pressure differential between suction and discharge pressures is too great for the turbine wheel to overcome. From too high discharge pressure and/or too low suction pressure.) On gassers, this is important as there's vacuum to deal with.
what he said ^^^^^. since diesels don't create their own vacuum it's not needed. if you want overboost protection or want to keep drive pressures in check you can use an external wastegate, but i don't see spending that money and fab time just to use it on a stock turbo.
 
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Old May 8, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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Waste gates are for guys with super duties who think they have a better stock turbo than us, just cause it has a waste gate. hahahaha.
 
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Old May 8, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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Good joke William and I didnt plan on putting one on mine cause we lol no one else does, but I know some Cummins guys who do. Anyways. Thats all, thanks guys.
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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i know a few 6.0 guys who have a BOV, but they are running compound turbos and mind boggling boost numbers that wastegates alone cant control. the BOV prevents the boost creep at bay after the waste gates are opened entirely.

modded cummins B's are a bit more boost happy than our 7.3's, so i could see how a BOV might be a popular add-on for them. i would venture to say that most people who have them dont need them but they dont hurt anything, they just will never open.

gassers need some blow off protection because there is a large mass of air ripping through the intake tract that SLAMS to a stop when the throttle plates close. vacuum has nothing to do with it, other than its used to actuate some BOV's on gassers. the smart guys run an internally recirculated BOV that bleeds the boost pressure off into the exhaust side to keep the turbine spinning during shifts.
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 07:09 AM
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That's what I couldn't think of... the throttle plates on gassers. Duh.
 
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Old May 11, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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Aaron, I think you may be right about the vacuum. Got thinking about it and the placement of the throttle plate in the system. That being the downstream (higher pressure) side of the turbo and vacuum on the downstream side of that. On the other hand, the principle of pressure differential induced turbine surge still stands. When the throttle plate slams shut and stops the flow, the turbo is still pushing and has no place to push to. Also, the exhaust turbine is still being driven by the exhaust flow which has slowed, but not stopped. It's not that the turbo stops spinning, it actually achieves overspeed which can be catastrophic if it's really bad due to lack of load (forward flow) on the turbine wheel itself. This is actually a reversal of flow past the turbine wheel if only for a very short time. Sorry for the long post. I really enjoy this stuff. Haven't worked directly with turbines in a couple years, but I really enjoyed it when I did. Thanks for gettin' the ol' bean rolling. And, I hope it made sense.....
 
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