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Old May 9, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
Keep telling me about CJ's. I owned my first on in 1969. When did you own one?
I own nine of those engines currently. Just because you had one new does not change the facts.

428 Cobra Jet Cylinder Head Identification

I also own Low Riser, Medium Riser, and High Risers. So don't get snippy. Not only have I compared ports side-by-side, but I've matched them up to plenty of intakes. Don't forget to show us those C9 castings!
 
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Old May 9, 2010 | 12:18 AM
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Hmm, maby I should measure the stroke on the engine tommrow and make shure it has a 428 crank in it!!
Is there a simple way of determining what cam is in the engine?
 
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Old May 9, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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I stroked the engine today, and it dose indeed have the 428 crank in it. While I was messing around with the truck I measuerd the ports on my heads and the ports on my new intake manifold, The ports on my heads are 1/4" taller than the ports on on the manifold. It shouldent be a problem to port match it. Right?

And a couple questions about my manifold. I couldent find any casting numbers on it, just the firing order and FoMoCo. And I cant rember what I was told when I bought it a couple years ago.
Can yall tell me if it is a single plane or a dual plane manifold?


 
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Old May 9, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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No, it has a 410 crank in it since both engines had a 3.98" stroke.

That manifold is gonna suck on the street, the open plenum and single plane are not good for the for low end or mid range. The spacers don't help either.
 
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Old May 9, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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I knew that the spacers were going to have to come off, mostly just so I could close the hood!
I was afraid that it was a single plane intake.. How bad will this manifold kill my torque compaired to my single carb, iron intake manifold.
Its not really a street truck, I spend most of the time playing in mud and off roading. Dont think this matters though, according to my book single planes are really only good for racing.
 
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Old May 9, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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That manifold started life as a dual plane, but some nitwit cut out the center divider in the plenum and hogged it out. You will be lucky if that manifold starts working by 3500 RPM. Putting a pair of Holley 390 CFM 4 barrels on it would help a bunch and still be way more carb than you need. Even a pair of 2 barrels would work good. I did that on a cross ram manifold on a drag/street car once.

410 CID @ 6000 RPM only needs 711 CFM
 
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Old May 9, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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Hmm, looks like I might be putting this intake setup for sale, and buy me a six shooter (what I really wanted to begin with).
That would probly be my best bet right?
 
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Old May 9, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 410F-100
Hmm, looks like I might be putting this intake setup for sale, and buy me a six shooter (what I really wanted to begin with).
That would probly be my best bet right?
If you sell the 8V, don't advertise it as a single plane. Despite what you've been told, you cannot turn a dual plane into a single plane by carving out the plenum. Single planes are cast with all the ports in, oddly, the same plane. This is what a factory style single plane 8V looks like:

http://www.gessford.com/cobraparts/i...unnelwedge.gif

6V's can be much more streetable, but you must do your homework concerning carb refurbishment and tuning. I ran a 6V for a couple years on a 410 in a Cyclone GT and it was blast. Get your wallet ready.

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Old May 9, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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Best intake setup all around I ever had was a 3X2 set up off a 406. It even made my 428CJ quicker and faster and then passed Oregon's emissions test with no air pump.



 
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Old May 9, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
Best intake setup all around I ever had was a 3X2 set up off a 406. It even made my 428CJ quicker and faster and then passed Oregon's emissions test with no air pump.



Gee, were those C9 heads on that there motor?
 
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Old May 9, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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Nope, but then I just want him to look at what the head numbers were. But at least I've owned a couple of CJs. You still haven't told me when you owned one. Here's two in one picture.

 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bear 45/70
Nope, but then I just want him to look at what the head numbers were. But at least I've owned a couple of CJs. You still haven't told me when you owned one. Here's two in one picture.

You asked me when I owned any CJ's, and I told you I currently have nine engines. You did not ask about CARS equipped with CJ engines. A Cobra Jet is an engine package, not a car. I currently have an R-code XR-7, two R-code Fairlane Cobras, a Q-code Cyclone CJ, and a Q-code Ranchero GT. I also have six cars/trucks with 390's, two with 410's, and one with a 360. There's a 429 Cobra Jet '70 Cyclone Spoiler and a 351-4V '70 Torino GT. Bunch more with 460's and small blocks, but you get the idea.

Happy now? Good!

And now to clear up the C9 heads for the newbies: the C8AE-H heads were used on 360's, 390's, and standard/Police 428's from '68 to '71, and was replaced by the D2TE-AA head in '72, which ran through the end of light truck production in '76. So, there are no C9, D0, or D1 heads in the FE world.

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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Ok so when I go shopping for intake manifolds and carburation again, is there any particular casting numbers I am looking for so the manifold ports will match up to my
C4AE, 6090G heads?
I have a set of Hooker headers ( Hooker Headers 6906HKR - Hooker Competition Headers - Overview - SummitRacing.com ) I bought for the truck along time ago, I bought them for a 390 4X4 truck of my year. Will these headers fit my C4AE heads??
What about when I order parts, anything on or around the heads, should I search it as a 64 Galaxie 390/427?
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 410F-100
Ok so when I go shopping for intake manifolds and carburation again, is there any particular casting numbers I am looking for so the manifold ports will match up to my
C4AE, 6090G heads?
I have a set of Hooker headers ( Hooker Headers 6906HKR - Hooker Competition Headers - Overview - SummitRacing.com ) I bought for the truck along time ago, I bought them for a 390 4X4 truck of my year. Will these headers fit my C4AE heads??
What about when I order parts, anything on or around the heads, should I search it as a 64 Galaxie 390/427?
Early heads like yours will take most common intakes, as they have larger ports than the later ones. The 8V you have is for later ports, so you already know the difference. It is not necessary to port match the intake for most applications. The problem is usually the reverse situation, when fitting an early intake to later heads. The 6V you want is a direct match to the C4-G heads, which BTW did not come on any 427's. They take pretty much the same hardware as any other standard head.

Those headers will probably have a mismatch to your heads, but may work depending on how you approach the gasket situation. I have no direct experience with that exact combo.

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